Has there ever been an effort to configure sipx so it can configure the Patton devices? I'm sure they are easy to configure once you have done it once, but I was told on here the learning curve can be steep. That is why I chose the audiocodes for my first gateway i had to do. I had it done in 5 minutes without having to know everything about how it worked.

On 2/18/2010 6:38 PM, Tony Graziano wrote:
Nope. I like to have something that senses disconnects properly. Is factory supported. That is highly configurable. Patton's that ticket for me.

Imagine a text config file where you simple replace one or two pieces of information everytime you add one, and paste the config in. It's a wonderful life. I never spend more than 5 minutes when I get one in from unboxing to deploying.

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 6:39 PM, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    It is possible. They have a million options, I know that much.
    Pressing pound does force the call to dial immediately.

    I know. It isn't a great device. For the price, and for what I
    need it to do, it is worth a try. I have 2 audiocodes MP 114s on
    the way too, but I know you aren't a big fan of audiocodes either.


    On 2/18/2010 4:43 PM, Tony Graziano wrote:

        Methinks these devices suck rottens eggs.

        In any case, what happens if you end the dialed number with
        its dial string
        termination character (#?)? Does that speed it up?

        When I need a cheap device I cringe, because the time ain't
        worth the
        troubles.
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        Subject: Re: [sipx-users] spa3102 for outbound calls

        Maybe something related to the 2 stage dialing config? I
        didn't notice any
        delays like this using the config I sent in that PDF but I was
        just thrilled
        it could make calls at all and might just not have noticed the
        delay. Maybe
        plug in a butt-set or a parallel phone and listen for where
        the delay is to
        narrow it down (delay seizing line, delay before dialing,
        delay or slow
        dialing of digits, ...?).

        -Eric

        On Feb 18, 2010, at 4:33 PM, [email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:


            I have everything working except what I assume is a
            dialing rule problem.
            As soon as I hit send on the Ploycom, I do see the call
            transferred to the
            IP of the SPA.
            If I have dialed a 11 digit number (1 + area code +
            xxx-xxxx) the call
            rings immediately.
            If I dial a 10 digit number (area code + xxx-xxxx) it
            starts ringing in
            about 6 seconds.
            If I dial a 7 digit number, the call doesn't start ringing
            for 10 seconds.
            Nothing I have done with the dialing rule seems to change
            anything. I'm
            assuming the PSTN Line is the place I need to change this.
            Interdigit
            Short Timer defaults to 5 and Interdigit Short Timer:
            defaults to 10.
            After reading what they do, I thought that had to be it
            for sure.
            
http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/fix-sipura-voip-ata-adapter-interdigit-dialing-delay/
            I tried lowering those. It didn't seem to affect anything.
            I'm assuming
            that as soon as it shows the IP on the polycom, the call
            has been
            transferred to the SPA, so the change I need to make would
            have to be in
            the SPA. Any ideas?

            On 2/18/2010 11:55 AM, Eric Varsanyi wrote:

                I started with an Audiocodes gateway back in October,
                it was the one
                model (FXO+FXS) that sipxecs wouldn't configure and
                the sipxecs
                configuration stuff for FXO required it to be treated
                as a homogenous
                group of ports. Two things led me to return it:

                   1) The documentation and manual configuration of
                the SPA3102 is pretty
                good compared to Audiocodes  (there were numerous
                occasions when changing
                what appeared to be a completely unrelated setting
                resulted in no
                dialtone on the FXS side, I think they just internally
                bail if anything
                is amiss and give you no diagnostics).
                   2) On a brand new unit they wanted me to buy a
                service contract to get
                the current firmware and download the manuals (such as
                they are)

                The SPA may be a buggy POS but Audiocodes was at least
                as frustrating to
                configure and, as a bonus, it was expensive too.

                I expect someone using a model supported by sipXecs
                for configuration
                would have a better experience.

                I feel your pain, the SPA sure is a PITA to get going.
                Happy to help if I
                can, all those hours spent beating my head on the damn
                thing might as
                well go to some good :)

                -Eric Varsanyi

                On Feb 18, 2010, at 11:46 AM,
                [email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:



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                    On 2/18/2010 11:17 AM, Eric Varsanyi wrote:


                        For debugging if you set it up to send syslog
                        messages and turn the
                        level all the way up it sometimes produces
                        semi-useful output. You
                        don't have to have a syslog server set up to
                        catch it if you can run
                        tcpdump or socat.

                        If you can capture traffic to/from the device
                        with tcpdump that's
                        probably the next step if the syslog stuff
                        doesn't pay off (it kind of
                        sounds like either its ignoring you or
                        sipxproxy isn't really sending
                        the invite where you hope its going).

                        -Eric Varsanyi

                        On Feb 18, 2010, at 11:09 AM,
                        [email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:




                            I have no doubt it is a PEBKAC, I just
                            don't where to look. I changed
                            it to 5061 (I now see that setting in the
                            PSTN Line tab on the
                            spa3102). The logs look about the same to
                            me. I don't see anything
                            that even tells me it is making it to the
                            spa3102.

                            On 2/18/2010 10:54 AM, Eric Varsanyi wrote:



                                When I set mine up late last year the
                                only issue I had making
                                outbound calls (that wasn't PEBKAC)
                                was the thing didn't think there
                                was a line attached and returned
                                something like 'resource not
                                avaiable' to the invite. I had to
                                change the line voltage threshold
                                down in the international settings box
                                to fix this.

                                Ah, in the log I see you're using
                                5060, the FXO side by default is on
                                5061 (the FXS is on 5060). LIkely
                                that's your issue.

                                -Eric

                                On Feb 18, 2010, at 10:42 AM,
                                [email protected]
                                <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:





                                    I'm trying to configure a spa3102
                                    for outbound calls only. I know
                                    people pull their hair out over
                                    these devices, but I wanted to give
                                    it a shot. My only gateways I've
                                    worked with so far are sipxbridge
                                    and an audiocodes configred from
                                    within sipx, so I haven't really
                                    done too much manual FXO
                                    configuration.
                                    I think I may be missing something
                                    on the sipx end, because I don't
                                    think the call is ever making it
                                    to the spa3102. This is a new setup
                                    and has no other gateways. I added
                                    the spa3102 as an unmanaged
                                    gateway. I enabled all the dialing
                                    plans and added the gateway. I'm
                                    using a polycom 550, Sipx 4.0.4,
                                     bootrom 4.2.1, firmware 3.1.3C
                                    split. I would show a siptrace,
                                    but the merged file doesn't really
                                    have anything in it. The sipx
                                    server is at 10.81.1.5. The spa3102 is
                                    at 10.81.1.6. I tried setting the
                                    gateway in sipx to UDP manually
                                    (that is what the spa3102 defaults
                                    to) and specifying port 5060, but
                                    that didn't seem to change
                                    anything. There are only 2 logs
                                    created,
                                    so I attached those. Is there
                                    something simple I'm missing? I read
                                    through this,
                                    
http://sipx-wiki.calivia.com/index.php/HowTo_configure_sipX_to_work_with_FXO/FXS_SIP_Gateways
                                    but I don't see anything that
                                    sticks out at me. The only thig I
                                    thought I might need to do is
                                    something in authrules.xml, but I'm
                                    still

          not sure since the text around it refers to FXS and this is
        FXO. I sort of
        guess there has to be some some sort of authorization for the
        spa3102 to
        know the sipx call can be sent outbound, but I don't know
        where to do this.
        Sorry if I'm missing something obvious here. I think the fact
        that I got an
        audiocodes 8 port working inbound and outbound with no
        questions (and
        clearly not much knowledge on the subject) is a testament to
        how well sipx
        is able to configure it!

                                    Thanks,
                                    Matthew
                                    
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