When you're the man - you're the man...I certainly wouldn't argue with his sipx 
advice/guidance.  Even if it is:

"you're an idiot - buy good equipment and set your system up right the first 
time" (paraphrased of course)

I think I'll setup an inbound sip trunk that forwards calls to Tony - the intro 
being:

"Do you have too much self esteem or inadvertantly think you're clever - Tony 
can help" - and then the caller will suddenly realize that they pale in 
comparison.

Of course, I'll need Tony's help to get my inbound trunk working properly :)


-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Hodgen [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 6:01 PM
To: Nathaniel Watkins; 'Tony Graziano'; [email protected]; 
[email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [sipx-users] spa3102 for outbound calls

Tony has beaten around the bush so much over the years, there is nothing to
beat on.   All that is left on those bushes is the cold hard
facts......which is gladly shares with us.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nathaniel
Watkins
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 2:54 PM
To: Tony Graziano; [email protected]; [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [sipx-users] spa3102 for outbound calls

One thing I'll give Tony - he doesn't beat around the bush :)

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony Graziano
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 5:44 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [sipx-users] spa3102 for outbound calls

Methinks these devices suck rottens eggs.

In any case, what happens if you end the dialed number with its dial string
termination character (#?)? Does that speed it up?

When I need a cheap device I cringe, because the time ain't worth the
troubles.
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----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
<[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu Feb 18 17:38:33 2010
Subject: Re: [sipx-users] spa3102 for outbound calls

Maybe something related to the 2 stage dialing config? I didn't notice any
delays like this using the config I sent in that PDF but I was just thrilled
it could make calls at all and might just not have noticed the delay. Maybe
plug in a butt-set or a parallel phone and listen for where the delay is to
narrow it down (delay seizing line, delay before dialing, delay or slow
dialing of digits, ...?).

-Eric

On Feb 18, 2010, at 4:33 PM, [email protected] wrote:

> I have everything working except what I assume is a dialing rule problem.
> As soon as I hit send on the Ploycom, I do see the call transferred to
> the IP of the SPA.
> If I have dialed a 11 digit number (1 + area code + xxx-xxxx) the call
> rings immediately.
> If I dial a 10 digit number (area code + xxx-xxxx) it starts ringing
> in about 6 seconds.
> If I dial a 7 digit number, the call doesn't start ringing for 10 seconds.
> Nothing I have done with the dialing rule seems to change anything.
> I'm assuming the PSTN Line is the place I need to change this.
> Interdigit Short Timer defaults to 5 and Interdigit Short Timer: defaults
to 10.
> After reading what they do, I thought that had to be it for sure.
> http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/fix-sipura-voip-ata-adapter-interdigit-dia
> ling-delay/ I tried lowering those. It didn't seem to affect anything.
> I'm assuming that as soon as it shows the IP on the polycom, the call
> has been transferred to the SPA, so the change I need to make would
> have to be in the SPA. Any ideas?
>
> On 2/18/2010 11:55 AM, Eric Varsanyi wrote:
>> I started with an Audiocodes gateway back in October, it was the one
>> model (FXO+FXS) that sipxecs wouldn't configure and the sipxecs
>> configuration stuff for FXO required it to be treated as a homogenous
>> group of ports. Two things led me to return it:
>>
>>    1) The documentation and manual configuration of the SPA3102 is
>> pretty good compared to Audiocodes  (there were numerous occasions
>> when changing what appeared to be a completely unrelated setting
>> resulted in no dialtone on the FXS side, I think they just internally
>> bail if anything is amiss and give you no diagnostics).
>>    2) On a brand new unit they wanted me to buy a service contract to
>> get the current firmware and download the manuals (such as they are)
>>
>> The SPA may be a buggy POS but Audiocodes was at least as frustrating
>> to configure and, as a bonus, it was expensive too.
>>
>> I expect someone using a model supported by sipXecs for configuration
>> would have a better experience.
>>
>> I feel your pain, the SPA sure is a PITA to get going. Happy to help
>> if I can, all those hours spent beating my head on the damn thing
>> might as well go to some good :)
>>
>> -Eric Varsanyi
>>
>> On Feb 18, 2010, at 11:46 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>
>>> This ebay auction is starting to look tempting :)
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350265531020&rvr_
>>> id=&crlp=1_263602_263622&UA=%3F*I7&GUID=d74220781250a0e203017dc1fbe7
>>> 84da&itemid=350265531020&ff4=263602_263622
>>>
>>> Audio Codes MP-114 FXO VOIP Gateway - NEW US $249.99
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/18/2010 11:17 AM, Eric Varsanyi wrote:
>>>
>>>> For debugging if you set it up to send syslog messages and turn the
>>>> level all the way up it sometimes produces semi-useful output. You
>>>> don't have to have a syslog server set up to catch it if you can run
>>>> tcpdump or socat.
>>>>
>>>> If you can capture traffic to/from the device with tcpdump that's
>>>> probably the next step if the syslog stuff doesn't pay off (it kind of
>>>> sounds like either its ignoring you or sipxproxy isn't really sending
>>>> the invite where you hope its going).
>>>>
>>>> -Eric Varsanyi
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 18, 2010, at 11:09 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I have no doubt it is a PEBKAC, I just don't where to look. I changed
>>>>> it to 5061 (I now see that setting in the PSTN Line tab on the
>>>>> spa3102). The logs look about the same to me. I don't see anything
>>>>> that even tells me it is making it to the spa3102.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/18/2010 10:54 AM, Eric Varsanyi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> When I set mine up late last year the only issue I had making
>>>>>> outbound calls (that wasn't PEBKAC) was the thing didn't think there
>>>>>> was a line attached and returned something like 'resource not
>>>>>> avaiable' to the invite. I had to change the line voltage threshold
>>>>>> down in the international settings box to fix this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah, in the log I see you're using 5060, the FXO side by default is on
>>>>>> 5061 (the FXS is on 5060). LIkely that's your issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Eric
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2010, at 10:42 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm trying to configure a spa3102 for outbound calls only. I know
>>>>>>> people pull their hair out over these devices, but I wanted to give
>>>>>>> it a shot. My only gateways I've worked with so far are sipxbridge
>>>>>>> and an audiocodes configred from within sipx, so I haven't really
>>>>>>> done too much manual FXO configuration.
>>>>>>> I think I may be missing something on the sipx end, because I don't
>>>>>>> think the call is ever making it to the spa3102. This is a new setup
>>>>>>> and has no other gateways. I added the spa3102 as an unmanaged
>>>>>>> gateway. I enabled all the dialing plans and added the gateway. I'm
>>>>>>> using a polycom 550, Sipx 4.0.4,  bootrom 4.2.1, firmware 3.1.3C
>>>>>>> split. I would show a siptrace, but the merged file doesn't really
>>>>>>> have anything in it. The sipx server is at 10.81.1.5. The spa3102 is
>>>>>>> at 10.81.1.6. I tried setting the gateway in sipx to UDP manually
>>>>>>> (that is what the spa3102 defaults to) and specifying port 5060, but
>>>>>>> that didn't seem to change anything. There are only 2 logs created,
>>>>>>> so I attached those. Is there something simple I'm missing? I read
>>>>>>> through this,
>>>>>>>
http://sipx-wiki.calivia.com/index.php/HowTo_configure_sipX_to_work_with_FXO
/FXS_SIP_Gateways
>>>>>>> but I don't see anything that sticks out at me. The only thig I
>>>>>>> thought I might need to do is something in authrules.xml, but I'm
>>>>>>> still
  not sure since the text around it refers to FXS and this is FXO. I sort of
guess there has to be some some sort of authorization for the spa3102 to
know the sipx call can be sent outbound, but I don't know where to do this.
Sorry if I'm missing something obvious here. I think the fact that I got an
audiocodes 8 port working inbound and outbound with no questions (and
clearly not much knowledge on the subject) is a testament to how well sipx
is able to configure it!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Matthew
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> <sipregistrar.log><sipXproxy.log>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

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