I have a lot of clients who ask me to come in and explain those to folks,
auditors too. Add to that my kids say my favorite word is "No.". I shoot so
straight people put on a a Bad Company album when I walk in the room. Move
over Lord Vader.

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Eric Varsanyi <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yeah, I wish Patton had a 1 port FXO at twice the price of an SPA3102. A
> Patton 1FXO+1FXS with failover relay would remove any desire to suffer at
> the hands of Linksys.
>
> What really kills me about Cisco/Linksys is the hardware isn't bad and the
> firmware would actually be OK (if a little unintuitive in the UI dept) if it
> wasn't riddled with bugs. They still sell these things (and other ones in
> the same line) but they've completely abandoned even basic ongoing
> maintenance. At least Amazon took the ones I had bought back as 'Defective
> by design' (for a full refund).
>
> -Eric
>
> On Feb 18, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Nathaniel Watkins wrote:
>
> > One thing I'll give Tony - he doesn't beat around the bush :)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony Graziano
> > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 5:44 PM
> > To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> > Cc: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [sipx-users] spa3102 for outbound calls
> >
> > Methinks these devices suck rottens eggs.
> >
> > In any case, what happens if you end the dialed number with its dial
> string termination character (#?)? Does that speed it up?
> >
> > When I need a cheap device I cringe, because the time ain't worth the
> troubles.
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: [email protected]
> > <[email protected]>
> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> > Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Thu Feb 18 17:38:33 2010
> > Subject: Re: [sipx-users] spa3102 for outbound calls
> >
> > Maybe something related to the 2 stage dialing config? I didn't notice
> any delays like this using the config I sent in that PDF but I was just
> thrilled it could make calls at all and might just not have noticed the
> delay. Maybe plug in a butt-set or a parallel phone and listen for where the
> delay is to narrow it down (delay seizing line, delay before dialing, delay
> or slow dialing of digits, ...?).
> >
> > -Eric
> >
> > On Feb 18, 2010, at 4:33 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >> I have everything working except what I assume is a dialing rule
> problem.
> >> As soon as I hit send on the Ploycom, I do see the call transferred to
> >> the IP of the SPA.
> >> If I have dialed a 11 digit number (1 + area code + xxx-xxxx) the call
> >> rings immediately.
> >> If I dial a 10 digit number (area code + xxx-xxxx) it starts ringing
> >> in about 6 seconds.
> >> If I dial a 7 digit number, the call doesn't start ringing for 10
> seconds.
> >> Nothing I have done with the dialing rule seems to change anything.
> >> I'm assuming the PSTN Line is the place I need to change this.
> >> Interdigit Short Timer defaults to 5 and Interdigit Short Timer:
> defaults to 10.
> >> After reading what they do, I thought that had to be it for sure.
> >> http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/fix-sipura-voip-ata-adapter-interdigit-dia
> >> ling-delay/ I tried lowering those. It didn't seem to affect anything.
> >> I'm assuming that as soon as it shows the IP on the polycom, the call
> >> has been transferred to the SPA, so the change I need to make would
> >> have to be in the SPA. Any ideas?
> >>
> >> On 2/18/2010 11:55 AM, Eric Varsanyi wrote:
> >>> I started with an Audiocodes gateway back in October, it was the one
> >>> model (FXO+FXS) that sipxecs wouldn't configure and the sipxecs
> >>> configuration stuff for FXO required it to be treated as a homogenous
> >>> group of ports. Two things led me to return it:
> >>>
> >>>   1) The documentation and manual configuration of the SPA3102 is
> >>> pretty good compared to Audiocodes  (there were numerous occasions
> >>> when changing what appeared to be a completely unrelated setting
> >>> resulted in no dialtone on the FXS side, I think they just internally
> >>> bail if anything is amiss and give you no diagnostics).
> >>>   2) On a brand new unit they wanted me to buy a service contract to
> >>> get the current firmware and download the manuals (such as they are)
> >>>
> >>> The SPA may be a buggy POS but Audiocodes was at least as frustrating
> >>> to configure and, as a bonus, it was expensive too.
> >>>
> >>> I expect someone using a model supported by sipXecs for configuration
> >>> would have a better experience.
> >>>
> >>> I feel your pain, the SPA sure is a PITA to get going. Happy to help
> >>> if I can, all those hours spent beating my head on the damn thing
> >>> might as well go to some good :)
> >>>
> >>> -Eric Varsanyi
> >>>
> >>> On Feb 18, 2010, at 11:46 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> This ebay auction is starting to look tempting :)
> >>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350265531020&rvr_
> >>>> id=&crlp=1_263602_263622&UA=%3F*I7&GUID=d74220781250a0e203017dc1fbe7
> >>>> 84da&itemid=350265531020&ff4=263602_263622
> >>>>
> >>>> Audio Codes MP-114 FXO VOIP Gateway - NEW US $249.99
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2/18/2010 11:17 AM, Eric Varsanyi wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> For debugging if you set it up to send syslog messages and turn the
> >>>>> level all the way up it sometimes produces semi-useful output. You
> >>>>> don't have to have a syslog server set up to catch it if you can run
> >>>>> tcpdump or socat.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you can capture traffic to/from the device with tcpdump that's
> >>>>> probably the next step if the syslog stuff doesn't pay off (it kind
> of
> >>>>> sounds like either its ignoring you or sipxproxy isn't really sending
> >>>>> the invite where you hope its going).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Eric Varsanyi
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Feb 18, 2010, at 11:09 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I have no doubt it is a PEBKAC, I just don't where to look. I
> changed
> >>>>>> it to 5061 (I now see that setting in the PSTN Line tab on the
> >>>>>> spa3102). The logs look about the same to me. I don't see anything
> >>>>>> that even tells me it is making it to the spa3102.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2/18/2010 10:54 AM, Eric Varsanyi wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> When I set mine up late last year the only issue I had making
> >>>>>>> outbound calls (that wasn't PEBKAC) was the thing didn't think
> there
> >>>>>>> was a line attached and returned something like 'resource not
> >>>>>>> avaiable' to the invite. I had to change the line voltage threshold
> >>>>>>> down in the international settings box to fix this.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ah, in the log I see you're using 5060, the FXO side by default is
> on
> >>>>>>> 5061 (the FXS is on 5060). LIkely that's your issue.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -Eric
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2010, at 10:42 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'm trying to configure a spa3102 for outbound calls only. I know
> >>>>>>>> people pull their hair out over these devices, but I wanted to
> give
> >>>>>>>> it a shot. My only gateways I've worked with so far are sipxbridge
> >>>>>>>> and an audiocodes configred from within sipx, so I haven't really
> >>>>>>>> done too much manual FXO configuration.
> >>>>>>>> I think I may be missing something on the sipx end, because I
> don't
> >>>>>>>> think the call is ever making it to the spa3102. This is a new
> setup
> >>>>>>>> and has no other gateways. I added the spa3102 as an unmanaged
> >>>>>>>> gateway. I enabled all the dialing plans and added the gateway.
> I'm
> >>>>>>>> using a polycom 550, Sipx 4.0.4,  bootrom 4.2.1, firmware 3.1.3C
> >>>>>>>> split. I would show a siptrace, but the merged file doesn't really
> >>>>>>>> have anything in it. The sipx server is at 10.81.1.5. The spa3102
> is
> >>>>>>>> at 10.81.1.6. I tried setting the gateway in sipx to UDP manually
> >>>>>>>> (that is what the spa3102 defaults to) and specifying port 5060,
> but
> >>>>>>>> that didn't seem to change anything. There are only 2 logs
> created,
> >>>>>>>> so I attached those. Is there something simple I'm missing? I read
> >>>>>>>> through this,
> >>>>>>>>
> http://sipx-wiki.calivia.com/index.php/HowTo_configure_sipX_to_work_with_FXO/FXS_SIP_Gateways
> >>>>>>>> but I don't see anything that sticks out at me. The only thig I
> >>>>>>>> thought I might need to do is something in authrules.xml, but I'm
> >>>>>>>> still
> >  not sure since the text around it refers to FXS and this is FXO. I sort
> of
> > guess there has to be some some sort of authorization for the spa3102 to
> > know the sipx call can be sent outbound, but I don't know where to do
> this.
> > Sorry if I'm missing something obvious here. I think the fact that I got
> an
> > audiocodes 8 port working inbound and outbound with no questions (and
> > clearly not much knowledge on the subject) is a testament to how well
> sipx
> > is able to configure it!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>> Matthew
> >>>>>>>>
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