Here's a somewhat related idea that may be a better solution... and I 
believe that a feature request is already in the tracker...  what about 
implementing accounting codes for all "toll " calls?

I've worked in shops where some or all calls required a billing code 
before being allowed to proceed.  Codes corresponded to client jobs, 
departments, and individual employees.  By implementing billing codes, 
this problem once again becomes a managerial problem as calls are 
charged to a particular client, department, or user who has 
responsibility for seeing that those charges are paid (and identifying 
fraudulent charges).  Individuals can also be given an allowance and, be 
charged if they exceed that allowance.

If an employee purposely enters another user's code, it is still a 
managerial problem since the behavior now clearly falls into the 
category of misconduct.

-Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Graziano [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 1:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [sipx-users] "forward calls external" permission

Then if your job requires internatuonal calling privileges your best 
toll is
a reporting one.
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----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
To: Tony Graziano <[email protected]>
Cc: sipx-users <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun Feb 21 13:24:30 2010
Subject: Re: [sipx-users] "forward calls external" permission

I don't have customers. I have users. This was an employee purposely
stealing from the company so he didn't have to pay to call his mother in
africa. Yes, in my situation, it was a thief.
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Graziano <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 13:04:56
To: [email protected]<[email protected]>
Cc: sipx-users<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [sipx-users] "forward calls external" permission

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 10:23 AM, [email protected] <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On 2/21/2010 7:49 AM, Raymond Dans wrote:
> > I wonder if maybe introducing a User, time based set of permissions
> > might help in this situation.  So for example user A has long 
distance
> > permissions between the hours of 7 a.m. to 6 p.m. but not after that
> > time.  Not sure of the complexity involved in implementing this, 
just
> > throwing out the idea off the top of my head.
> >
> Wouldn't it need to be blocked in the personal auto attendant as well?
> That would seem like a better place for the thief to set this up. They
> could have multiple numbers that they could transfer out to, and it
> would be harder for them to get caught. We had someone doing this
> (different company, different phone system) and the volume wasn't high
> enough to raise any flags. The only way they got caught was because
> their boss called their desk after hours to leave a VM, and was
> surprised when they reached the employees mother at her home instead. 
I
> have no idea if blocking LD privileges at a certain time would affect
> how the personal attendant worked as well.
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Thief? Ok, whatever you say.  What we find is the "opposite". We have
customers who intentionally setup International calling for certain 
regions
of the world with the intent that their employees are able to use it to
contact family (as a perk, or benefit).

With the exception of International Dialling, all of our customers have
unlimited domestic long-distance, so as long as there is no abuse during
working hours that keeps people from doing their job, they don't really
care. With the work force becoming so mobile, controlling it becomes an
impedance to getting work done, and so on. So it seems I would look at 
your
request as legitimate, but not on the same priority as you need.  
Realize
this could have been addressed "first", and it sounds like you jumped in
without addressing this and other issues as an 11th hour need.

It would be proper to set an expectation based on what the system does,
instead of what it can do "if someone changed the code". In that spirit,
realize there are changes that would have to be made in order to add 
this to
sipxconfig in order to satisfy the management goal of the project, 
whether
it is schedule based or a plain permission. The changes have to involve
sipxconfig too, and I suggest you open an enhancement request to see if 
it
can be scheduled for an upcoming version, so you can set the proper
expectations for your "boss".

Regards,

Tony



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