May work in some cases but not in ours, we already have account codes 
through our LD provider and the toll fraud employees just use them to 
commit the fraud.

I wish it was as simple as "fire that theif" but unfortunately that's 
not the case.

Josh Patten
Assistant Network Administrator
Brazos County IT Dept.
(979) 361-4676


On 2/22/2010 8:25 AM, Paul Herron wrote:
> Here's a somewhat related idea that may be a better solution... and I
> believe that a feature request is already in the tracker...  what about
> implementing accounting codes for all "toll " calls?
>
> I've worked in shops where some or all calls required a billing code
> before being allowed to proceed.  Codes corresponded to client jobs,
> departments, and individual employees.  By implementing billing codes,
> this problem once again becomes a managerial problem as calls are
> charged to a particular client, department, or user who has
> responsibility for seeing that those charges are paid (and identifying
> fraudulent charges).  Individuals can also be given an allowance and, be
> charged if they exceed that allowance.
>
> If an employee purposely enters another user's code, it is still a
> managerial problem since the behavior now clearly falls into the
> category of misconduct.
>
> -Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Graziano [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 1:49 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] "forward calls external" permission
>
> Then if your job requires internatuonal calling privileges your best
> toll is
> a reporting one.
> ============================
> Tony Graziano, Manager
> Telephone: 434.984.8430
> Fax: 434.984.8431
>
> Email: [email protected]
>
> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
> Telephone: 434.984.8426
> Fax: 434.984.8427
>
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: [email protected]<[email protected]>
> To: Tony Graziano<[email protected]>
> Cc: sipx-users<[email protected]>
> Sent: Sun Feb 21 13:24:30 2010
> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] "forward calls external" permission
>
> I don't have customers. I have users. This was an employee purposely
> stealing from the company so he didn't have to pay to call his mother in
> africa. Yes, in my situation, it was a thief.
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Graziano<[email protected]>
> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 13:04:56
> To: [email protected]<[email protected]>
> Cc: sipx-users<[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] "forward calls external" permission
>
> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 10:23 AM, [email protected]<
> [email protected]>  wrote:
>
>    
>> On 2/21/2010 7:49 AM, Raymond Dans wrote:
>>      
>>> I wonder if maybe introducing a User, time based set of permissions
>>> might help in this situation.  So for example user A has long
>>>        
> distance
>    
>>> permissions between the hours of 7 a.m. to 6 p.m. but not after that
>>> time.  Not sure of the complexity involved in implementing this,
>>>        
> just
>    
>>> throwing out the idea off the top of my head.
>>>
>>>        
>> Wouldn't it need to be blocked in the personal auto attendant as well?
>> That would seem like a better place for the thief to set this up. They
>> could have multiple numbers that they could transfer out to, and it
>> would be harder for them to get caught. We had someone doing this
>> (different company, different phone system) and the volume wasn't high
>> enough to raise any flags. The only way they got caught was because
>> their boss called their desk after hours to leave a VM, and was
>> surprised when they reached the employees mother at her home instead.
>>      
> I
>    
>> have no idea if blocking LD privileges at a certain time would affect
>> how the personal attendant worked as well.
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>
> Thief? Ok, whatever you say.  What we find is the "opposite". We have
> customers who intentionally setup International calling for certain
> regions
> of the world with the intent that their employees are able to use it to
> contact family (as a perk, or benefit).
>
> With the exception of International Dialling, all of our customers have
> unlimited domestic long-distance, so as long as there is no abuse during
> working hours that keeps people from doing their job, they don't really
> care. With the work force becoming so mobile, controlling it becomes an
> impedance to getting work done, and so on. So it seems I would look at
> your
> request as legitimate, but not on the same priority as you need.
> Realize
> this could have been addressed "first", and it sounds like you jumped in
> without addressing this and other issues as an 11th hour need.
>
> It would be proper to set an expectation based on what the system does,
> instead of what it can do "if someone changed the code". In that spirit,
> realize there are changes that would have to be made in order to add
> this to
> sipxconfig in order to satisfy the management goal of the project,
> whether
> it is schedule based or a plain permission. The changes have to involve
> sipxconfig too, and I suggest you open an enhancement request to see if
> it
> can be scheduled for an upcoming version, so you can set the proper
> expectations for your "boss".
>
> Regards,
>
> Tony
>
>
>
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