On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Matt White <[email protected]>wrote:

> >>> Scott Lawrence <[email protected]> 03/19/10 3:00 PM >>>
>
> On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 09:58 -0400, Matt White wrote:
>
> >> I've often thought we should get a place on the wiki for feature
> >> bounties. Its a very popular thing to do in the asterisk world if you
> >> feel a feature is important....pony up some money.
>
> >I'm not familiar with what asterisk does specifically, but it seems to
> >me that before _I'd_ want to invest my time (assuming that my time was
> >mine to invest, which in this case it is not), I'd want more assurance
> >that there was actually money than text that someone put on a wiki page.
>
> >> I understand that with the bulk of development being done by Avaya
> >> employee's a bounty is a bit like moonlighting.
>
> >For those of us that work for Avaya it would be substantially worse than
> >moonlighting.
>
> >> However, some of the features like ACD are really about moving to a
> >> freeswitch backend, which could mean a larger development base.
>
> >And if someone out there wants to do the work, I'd be delighted to hear
> >about it and provide whatever information they need.
>
> >> I could right now offer at a least $1000 bounty for someone to get a
> >> decent freeswitch based ACD(or fix the current ACD but it sounds like
> >> thats a dead end), into the main tree.
>
> >That's a fine stake in the ground, and your offer is in the archive :-),
> >but you understand that what you're offering is perhaps a week or at
> >most two of programmer time at fair market rates? That's not much of an
> >ACD.
> >
> >Understand... what the community is getting for no $ (not quite free, as
> >I've expressed elsewhere) is the result of many _millions_ of dollars of
> >developer time. Yes, it's missing some things and has some warts, but
> >those things cost real money to build and fix. If you can find someone
> >to do them for $1K... more power to you - we'll take the output if it's
> >good.
>
> All very good thoughts.
>
> The way most bounties work is they are held in escrow until the work is
> completed.
>
> So for example, if a bounty was put out for an ACD, people can add to the
> bounty.  The amount of work dictates how high the bounty is until its
> claimed.  So if I put in 1K, there may not be a developer that feels its
> worth their time.  But then you may have a few more people add to it.
> Sometimes as little as $50.  Eventually the bounty gets high enough that a
> developer claims it and performs the work.
>
> I'm not sure how big the developer community is outside of Avaya
> employees.  I know there are a handful of good contributors outside of
> Avaya, just not sure if there are enough to make a bounties system work.
>
> However, I have seen in the asterisk community that bounties can bring more
> developers in...for the right price ;-)
>
> And I've seen this work very well for those small integration features
> where someone wants a feature to hook into CRM package xyz.
>
>
> I asked a similar question a while back. What I am curious about is whether
or not the ACD function should be written directly into FS and adopted by
sipXecs or if it is really more core to sipXecs. I assume the latter, but
with the current work being done to use the FS to use it as a VM platform,
it becomes difficult to tell from the outside.
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