Thanks for the info, we may need this feature too. 
I'll probably test it after a while...
Rgds,
Nikolay.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Tony Graziano
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 3:04 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] SipX 4.2 media relay
> 
> Manually edit sipxbridge.xml and set always relay media tag to "false"
> instead of true, then restart sipxbridge.
> 
> This is considered experimental and should be tested 
> thoroughly, because it may not work well with every user or 
> itsp (I.e. Hairpinned calls, etc.).
> ============================
> Tony Graziano, Manager
> Telephone: 434.984.8430
> Fax: 434.984.8431
> 
> Email: [email protected]
> 
> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
> Telephone: 434.984.8426
> Fax: 434.984.8427
> 
> Helpdesk Contract Customers:
> http://www.myitdepartment.net/gethelp/
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tony Graziano <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wed Dec 01 06:24:56 2010
> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] SipX 4.2 media relay
> 
> There is/was a way to achive this. He has been given the 
> instructions on how to do this before but he obviously did 
> not make notes of it.
> 
> I will look it up when I get in front of my system.
> ============================
> Tony Graziano, Manager
> Telephone: 434.984.8430
> Fax: 434.984.8431
> 
> Email: [email protected]
> 
> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
> Telephone: 434.984.8426
> Fax: 434.984.8427
> 
> Helpdesk Contract Customers:
> http://www.myitdepartment.net/gethelp/
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: [email protected]
> <[email protected]>
> To: 'Discussion list for users of sipXecs software'
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wed Dec 01 05:54:33 2010
> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] SipX 4.2 media relay
> 
> I see your problem now.
> I dont think that it is possible to turn off media relay when 
> calling through sipxbridge.
> Let somebody correct me if i'm mistaken.
> 
> I see the only thing you could play with: you could use 
> separate/independent FS profile as your gateway to itsp.
> That is you create independent FS instance (it may run on the 
> same machine as sipx, but listen on some free port).
> Configure in sipx unmanaged gw, pointing to this FS instance.
> FS is capable of doing "proxy authentication" and there is 
> "proxy media"
> option, that controls media stream.
> See 
> http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/sipXecs/Custom+FreeSWITCH+p
> rogramming
> as starting point.
> 
> Sounds complicated and requires some significant preliminary 
> efforts, but may work for you...
> 
> Rgds,
> Nikolay.
> 
> 
>   _____
> 
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Andrew Radke
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 1:09 PM
> To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] SipX 4.2 media relay
> 
> 
> The main reason is that we have a couple of phones at remote 
> locations connected via VPN. Since we are in a rural area 
> with slow ADSL1 as our only Internet connection option, 
> having the audio from these offices come in through the VPN 
> and then back out to the ITSP is less than ideal. With QOS on 
> the links quality is okay but latency is terrible and our 
> bandwidth is very limited.
> 
> Regards,
> Andrew Radke
> 
> On 01/12/2010, at 7:40 PM, "Nikolay Kondratyev" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> "Proxy authentication" with itsp for outgoing calls is also 
> performed by sipxbridge.
> That is, it will not work via 'unmanaged gw'.
> By the way, why don't you like media relay? Is there any real 
> problem because of that?
> Just in case it concerns you:
> If there is no NAT between you and ITSP you can configure 
> your siptrunk gw to use internal ip address (uncheck "use 
> public address for call setup"
> checkbox, which is checked by default).
> But media relay will be used anyway.
> Rgds,
> Nikolay.
> 
> 
> 
>   _____
> 
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Andrew Radke
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 12:21 PM
> To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] SipX 4.2 media relay
> 
> 
> At this stage we don't need to register since we don't accept 
> any incoming calls from our ITSP, but we do need to 
> authenticate outgoing calls via them.
> 
> Regards,
> Andrew Radke
> 
> On 01/12/2010, at 7:00 PM, "Nikolay Kondratyev" < 
> <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> You mean register to ITSP?
> No, it can't (afaik).
> Rgds,
> Nikolay.
> 
> 
>   _____
> 
> From:  <mailto:[email protected]>
> [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Andrew Radke
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 11:23 AM
> To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] SipX 4.2 media relay
> 
> 
> Can an unmanaged gateway authenticate with an ITSP though? 
> Sorry, I didn't even look in 4.2 and I've left work for the day now.
> 
> Regards,
> Andrew Radke
> 
> On 01/12/2010, at 4:37 PM, "Nikolay Kondratyev" < 
> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Andrew,
> do you use "sip trunk" to connect to ITSP?
> my understanding is that, when you use siptrunk (sipxbridge), 
> you get the
> following:
> 1. Refer messages are converted to re-Invite.
> 2. media relay
> 3. shortened headers (not so many via's).
> And you can not make sipxbriddge not to do it.
> If you really want your media streams go directly from the 
> phones to ITSP, just use "unmanaged" gaeway.
> Rgds,
> Nikolay.
> 
> 
> 
>   _____
> 
> From:  <mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected]>
> [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Andrew Radke
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 9:07 AM
> To:  <mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]
> Subject: [sipx-users] SipX 4.2 media relay
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Something that I have noticed in 4.2 is that calls made via 
> an ITSP have their audio routed via the SipX media relay. I 
> have been looking at how to turn this off by reading previous 
> discussions on this list but it seems that since SipX notices 
> that there is a NATing firewall between it and the ITSP it 
> will relay the media anyway.
> 
> Under Internet Calling I have the correct intranet subnets 
> defined and have tried all combinations of "Enable NAT 
> Traversal" and "Server behind NAT".
> The notes on the right of this screen states: "Whenever it is 
> detected that the two endpoints that are starting a media 
> session are separated by one or more NATs, the server will 
> insert its Media Relay into the media path."
> which seems to define my issue.
> 
> Is it possible to disable this behaviour?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Andrew Radke
> Yuruga Nursery Pty Ltd
> Clonal Solutions Australia Pty Ltd
> PO Box 220
> Walkamin Qld 4872
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