Hi Tony,

This has been asked in the past by other people but not by me. I read through 
the archives and did indeed find this solution but there is no reference to 
relay media in my sipxbridge.xml (sipx 4.2.1). As such I assumed that this 
solution was for an older version of sipx and was loath to play with it without 
more info.

There was also another thread that indicated that "Enable NAT Traversal" and 
"Server behind NAT" will effect the media relay behaviour so I thought that 
this could have superseded the manual sipxbridge.xml modification.

Is there a wiki document or the like that I have missed that describes exactly 
what needs to be changed/added?

Thanks,
Andrew Radke

On 01/12/2010, at 10:04 PM, Tony Graziano <[email protected]> wrote:

> Manually edit sipxbridge.xml and set always relay media tag to "false"
> instead of true, then restart sipxbridge.
> 
> This is considered experimental and should be tested thoroughly, because it
> may not work well with every user or itsp (I.e. Hairpinned calls, etc.).
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tony Graziano <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wed Dec 01 06:24:56 2010
> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] SipX 4.2 media relay
> 
> There is/was a way to achive this. He has been given the instructions on how
> to do this before but he obviously did not make notes of it.
> 
> I will look it up when I get in front of my system.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: [email protected]
> <[email protected]>
> To: 'Discussion list for users of sipXecs software'
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wed Dec 01 05:54:33 2010
> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] SipX 4.2 media relay
> 
> I see your problem now.
> I dont think that it is possible to turn off media relay when calling
> through sipxbridge.
> Let somebody correct me if i'm mistaken.
> 
> I see the only thing you could play with: you could use separate/independent
> FS profile as your gateway to itsp.
> That is you create independent FS instance (it may run on the same machine
> as sipx, but listen on some free port).
> Configure in sipx unmanaged gw, pointing to this FS instance.
> FS is capable of doing "proxy authentication" and there is "proxy media"
> option, that controls media stream.
> See http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/sipXecs/Custom+FreeSWITCH+programming
> as starting point.
> 
> Sounds complicated and requires some significant preliminary efforts, but
> may work for you...
> 
> Rgds,
> Nikolay.
> 
> 
>  _____
> 
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrew Radke
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 1:09 PM
> To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] SipX 4.2 media relay
> 
> 
> The main reason is that we have a couple of phones at remote locations
> connected via VPN. Since we are in a rural area with slow ADSL1 as our only
> Internet connection option, having the audio from these offices come in
> through the VPN and then back out to the ITSP is less than ideal. With QOS
> on the links quality is okay but latency is terrible and our bandwidth is
> very limited.
> 
> Regards,
> Andrew Radke
> 
> On 01/12/2010, at 7:40 PM, "Nikolay Kondratyev" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> "Proxy authentication" with itsp for outgoing calls is also performed by
> sipxbridge.
> That is, it will not work via 'unmanaged gw'.
> By the way, why don't you like media relay? Is there any real problem
> because of that?
> Just in case it concerns you:
> If there is no NAT between you and ITSP you can configure your siptrunk gw
> to use internal ip address (uncheck "use public address for call setup"
> checkbox, which is checked by default).
> But media relay will be used anyway.
> Rgds,
> Nikolay.
> 
> 
> 
>  _____
> 
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrew Radke
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 12:21 PM
> To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] SipX 4.2 media relay
> 
> 
> At this stage we don't need to register since we don't accept any incoming
> calls from our ITSP, but we do need to authenticate outgoing calls via them.
> 
> Regards,
> Andrew Radke
> 
> On 01/12/2010, at 7:00 PM, "Nikolay Kondratyev" < <mailto:[email protected]>
> [email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> You mean register to ITSP?
> No, it can't (afaik).
> Rgds,
> Nikolay.
> 
> 
>  _____
> 
> From:  <mailto:[email protected]>
> [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrew Radke
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 11:23 AM
> To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] SipX 4.2 media relay
> 
> 
> Can an unmanaged gateway authenticate with an ITSP though? Sorry, I didn't
> even look in 4.2 and I've left work for the day now.
> 
> Regards,
> Andrew Radke
> 
> On 01/12/2010, at 4:37 PM, "Nikolay Kondratyev" < <mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Andrew,
> do you use "sip trunk" to connect to ITSP?
> my understanding is that, when you use siptrunk (sipxbridge), you get the
> following:
> 1. Refer messages are converted to re-Invite.
> 2. media relay
> 3. shortened headers (not so many via's).
> And you can not make sipxbriddge not to do it.
> If you really want your media streams go directly from the phones to ITSP,
> just use "unmanaged" gaeway.
> Rgds,
> Nikolay.
> 
> 
> 
>  _____
> 
> From:  <mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected]>
> [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrew Radke
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 9:07 AM
> To:  <mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]
> Subject: [sipx-users] SipX 4.2 media relay
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Something that I have noticed in 4.2 is that calls made via an ITSP have
> their audio routed via the SipX media relay. I have been looking at how to
> turn this off by reading previous discussions on this list but it seems that
> since SipX notices that there is a NATing firewall between it and the ITSP
> it will relay the media anyway.
> 
> Under Internet Calling I have the correct intranet subnets defined and have
> tried all combinations of "Enable NAT Traversal" and "Server behind NAT".
> The notes on the right of this screen states: "Whenever it is detected that
> the two endpoints that are starting a media session are separated by one or
> more NATs, the server will insert its Media Relay into the media path."
> which seems to define my issue.
> 
> Is it possible to disable this behaviour?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Andrew Radke
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