That' what I'm doing right now :)
 And there are some differences..
 The Siemens registering line doesn't have "rinstance="
 But what is it (rinstance=)?

 On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 06:51:32 -0400, Tony Graziano 
 <[email protected]> wrote:
> view the registrations in sipx and compare the differences between
> the two.
> On Jul 13, 2011 6:41 AM,  wrote:
>> I've found out a very interesting fact!
>> If I place a softphone (x-lite for example) under the same Router
>  > everything works fine! SIP is ok, RTP is ok, too.
>> But Gigaset 470 still has no media during inbound calls. Does it
> mean
>> that the NAT router and my SIP server work correct and the only
> problem
>  > is Siemens Gigaset?
>>
>> On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 06:13:16 -0400, Tony Graziano
>>  wrote:
>>> sbc's can do trucking remote users or both. it sounds like it
> would
>  >> be easier to use a different phone with it
>>> On Jul 12, 2011 4:13 AM, wrote:
>>>> Thank you for your replay Tony. But how can I use SBC with a
> single
>>>
>>>> phone? I thought that SBC can be "fixed" onlu using a trunk?
>  >> >
>>>> On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 04:09:00 -0400, Tony Graziano
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> because sip provider has a way handle your device randomizing
>>> portal.
>>> >> that's what a sbc does.. that device was designed for consumer
>  >> use .
>>>>> sipx is a system geared toward businesses.  either  get 
> border
>>>>> controller with that phone or get another phone.
>>> >> On Jul 12, 2011 3:40 AM, wrote:
>  >>>>> I tried everything i could, and it still doesn't work.
>>>>>> An interesting thing is that there are 2 more connections via
> SIP
>>>>> > between this phone and other SIP-providers, and everything is
>  >> >> fine!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 4:48 AM, wrote:
>>>>>>>>  Hey there!
>>>>>>>>  This is my first post in sipx-users mailing list, so I'm
>  >> sorry
>>> >> if
>>>>> >>> I do
>>>>>>>>  something wrong.
>>>>>>>>  Well.. the problem is strange enough, and I can't find out
>  >> how
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> fix
>>> >>>>>  it during 2 days, hm..
>>>>>>>>  So, i've got a sipX station, and it has public IP. So
> "Server
>  >>>> >>> behind
>>>>>>>>  NAT" is unchecked.
>>> >>>>>  There are about 5 users, whos phones use NAT. Everything
> is
>>> ok
>>>>>>>> with
>  >>>>>>>  softphones and SIP mobile phones. The only settings i fix
> in
>>>>> the
>>>>> >>>  softphones and SIP mobiles phones are REG server and
>>> >>>>> Domain/Outbound
>  >>>>>>>  Proxy server. Everything works fine! I use this pretty
> good
>>>>> guide
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>  >> >>
>>>
>>>
> 
>  _http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/sipXecs/Remote+User+NAT+Traversal
> [3]
>>> [3]
>>>>> [2]
>  >>>> >>> [3]
>>>>>>>>  But! The only phone (Siemens Gigaset C470 IP) doesn't work
> as
>>> >> good
>>>>>>>> as i
>>>>>>>>  need. The scheme of my VoIP network looks like this:
>  >>>>>>>  SIPX Server - > IP-network -> Remote NAT + Siemens Gigaset
>>> C470
>>>>> IP
>>> >> >>>  So the sipX station does'n use any nat, but the phone
> does.
>  >>>> SIP is
>>>>>>>> ok,
>>>>>>>>  so I can call this user and he can call me. When the call
>>> goes
>>> >>>>> from
>>>>>>>>  Siemens Gigaset C470 IP we can speak and everything is ok.
>  >> But
>>>>> if
>>>>> >>> I call
>>>>>>>>  him, there is no media between our phones. So the remote
> user
>>> >> can
>>>>>>>> hear
>  >>>>>>>  the ring, pick up the phone, but we can't hear each
> other..
>>>>>>>>  I've already tried to fix everything I could. There are
> those
>>> >> >>> types of
>  >>>>>>>  options in the Siemens Gigaset C470 IP web GUI:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Domain
>>>>>>>>  Proxy server address and port
>>>>>>>>  REG server addres and port
>  >> >> >>>  STUN yes/no
>>>>>>>>  STUN server
>>>>>>>>  Outbound proxy server and port
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I've alredy tried different combinations of those settings
>  >> >> (even
>>>>>>>>  checking "use STUN"), but there is no result. No media when
>>>>> anyone
>>>>> >>> call
>>>>>>>>  him.
>  >>>>>>>  I will be happy if someone could help me to find out where
>>> the
>>> >>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>  is.
>>>>>>>>  Regards, kga.
>  >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >>> sipx-users mailing list
>>> >>>>> [email protected] [4] [4] [3] [4]
>  >>>>>>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
> [5]
>>> [5] [4]
>>> >> [5]
>>>>> >>>
>  >>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> ======================
>>>>>>>> Tony Graziano, Manager
>>>>>>>> Telephone: 434.984.8430
>>>>>>>> sip: [email protected] [6] [6] [5] [6]
>  >> >> >>> Fax: 434.326.5325
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Email: [email protected] [7] [7] [6] [7]
>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>>> >> >>> Telephone: 434.984.8426
>>>>>>>> sip: [email protected] [8] [8] [7] [8]
>  >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Helpdesk Contract Customers:
>>> >>>>> http://support.myitdepartment.net [9] [9] [8] [9]
>  >>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> [10]Blog:
>>>>>>>> http://blog.myitdepartment.net [10] [10] [9] [11]
>>> >>>>>
>  >>>>>>> Linked-In
>>>>>>>>
> Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4 [11]
>>> [11]
>>>>> [10] [12]
>  >> >> >>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Links:
>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>  >>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
> 
> http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/sipXecs/Display+SIP+message+flow+using+Sipviewer
> [12]
>  >> [12]
>>> >> [11]
>>>>> >>> [2] mailto:[email protected] [13] [13] [12]
>>>>>>>> [3]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>  >>
> http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/sipXecs/Remote+User+NAT+Traversal
> [14]
>>> [14]
>>> >> [13]
>>>>> >>> [4] mailto:[email protected] [15] [15] [14]
>  >>>>>>> [5] http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ [16] [16]
> [15]
>>> >> >>> [6] mailto:[email protected] [17] [17]
> [16]
>  >>>>>>> [7] mailto:[email protected] [18] [18] [17]
>>> >> >>> [8] mailto:[email protected] [19] [19] [18]
>  >>>>>>> [9] http://support.myitdepartment.net [20] [20] [19]
>>> >>>>> [10] http://support.myitdepartment.net [21] [21] [20]
>  >>>> >>> [11] http://blog.myitdepartment.net [22] [22] [21]
>>> >>>>> [12] http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4
> [23] [23]
>  >> [22]
>>>>> >
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>> sipx-users mailing list
>>>>>> [email protected] [24] [24] [23]
>  >>>>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
> [25] [25]
>>> [24]
>>> >>
>>>>>
>>>>> Links:
>  >>>> ------
>>>>> [1] mailto:[email protected] [26] [26]
>>>>> [2]
>>>>>
>>>
> http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/sipXecs/Remote+User+NAT+Traversal
> [27]
>  >> [27]
>>> >> [3] mailto:[email protected] [28] [28]
>>>>> [4] http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ [29] [29]
>  >> >> [5] mailto:[email protected] [30] [30]
>>>>> [6] mailto:[email protected] [31] [31]
>  >>>> [7] mailto:[email protected] [32] [32]
>>> >> [8] http://support.myitdepartment.net [33] [33]
>  >>>> [9] http://blog.myitdepartment.net [34] [34]
>>>>> [10] http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4 [35]
> [35]
>  >> >> [11]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
> 
> http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/sipXecs/Display+SIP+message+flow+using+Sipviewer
> [36]
>  >> [36]
>>> >> [12] mailto:[email protected] [37] [37]
>>>>> [13]
>>>>>
>>>
> http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/sipXecs/Remote+User+NAT+Traversal
> [38]
>  >> [38]
>>> >> [14] mailto:[email protected] [39] [39]
>>>>> [15] http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ [40] [40]
>  >> >> [16] mailto:[email protected] [41] [41]
>>>>> [17] mailto:[email protected] [42] [42]
>  >>>> [18] mailto:[email protected] [43] [43]
>>> >> [19] http://support.myitdepartment.net [44] [44]
>  >>>> [20] http://support.myitdepartment.net [45] [45]
>>>>> [21] http://blog.myitdepartment.net [46] [46]
>>> >> [22] http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4 [47]
> [47]
>  >>>> [23] mailto:[email protected] [48] [48]
>>> >> [24] http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ [49] [49]
>  >>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> sipx-users mailing list
>>> > [email protected] [50] [50]
>  >>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
> [51] [51]
>>>
>>>
>>> Links:
>>> ------
>>> [1] mailto:[email protected] [52]
>  >> [2] mailto:[email protected] [53]
>>> [3]
>>>
> http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/sipXecs/Remote+User+NAT+Traversal
> [54]
>  >> [4] mailto:[email protected] [55]
>>> [5] http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ [56]
>  >> [6] mailto:[email protected] [57]
>>> [7] mailto:[email protected] [58]
>>> [8] mailto:[email protected] [59]
>  >> [9] http://support.myitdepartment.net [60]
>>> [10] http://blog.myitdepartment.net [61]
>>> [11] http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4 [62]
>  >> [12]
>>>
>>>
> 
> http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/sipXecs/Display+SIP+message+flow+using+Sipviewer
> [63]
>  >> [13] mailto:[email protected] [64]
>>> [14]
>>>
> http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/sipXecs/Remote+User+NAT+Traversal
> [65]
>  >> [15] mailto:[email protected] [66]
>>> [16] http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ [67]
>  >> [17] mailto:[email protected] [68]
>>> [18] mailto:[email protected] [69]
>>> [19] mailto:[email protected] [70]
>  >> [20] http://support.myitdepartment.net [71]
>>> [21] http://support.myitdepartment.net [72]
>>> [22] http://blog.myitdepartment.net [73]
>  >> [23] http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4 [74]
>>> [24] mailto:[email protected] [75]
>  >> [25] http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ [76]
>>> [26] mailto:[email protected] [77]
>>> [27]
>>>
> http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/sipXecs/Remote+User+NAT+Traversal
> [78]
>  >> [28] mailto:[email protected] [79]
>>> [29] http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ [80]
>  >> [30] mailto:[email protected] [81]
>>> [31] mailto:[email protected] [82]
>>> [32] mailto:[email protected] [83]
>  >> [33] http://support.myitdepartment.net [84]
>>> [34] http://blog.myitdepartment.net [85]
>>> [35] http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4 [86]
>  >> [36]
>>>
>>>
> 
> http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/sipXecs/Display+SIP+message+flow+using+Sipviewer
> [87]
>  >> [37] mailto:[email protected] [88]
>>> [38]
>>>
> http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/sipXecs/Remote+User+NAT+Traversal
> [89]
>  >> [39] mailto:[email protected] [90]
>>> [40] http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ [91]
>  >> [41] mailto:[email protected] [92]
>>> [42] mailto:[email protected] [93]
>>> [43] mailto:[email protected] [94]
>  >> [44] http://support.myitdepartment.net [95]
>>> [45] http://support.myitdepartment.net [96]
>>> [46] http://blog.myitdepartment.net [97]
>  >> [47] http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4 [98]
>>> [48] mailto:[email protected] [99]
>  >> [49] http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ [100]
>>> [50] mailto:[email protected] [101]
>  >> [51] http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ [102]
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sipx-users mailing list
>  > [email protected] [103]
>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ [104]
>
>
> Links:
> ------
> [1] mailto:[email protected]
> [2] mailto:[email protected]
> [3]
> http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/sipXecs/Remote+User+NAT+Traversal
> [4] mailto:[email protected]
> [5] http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
> [6] mailto:[email protected]
> [7] mailto:[email protected]
> [8] mailto:[email protected]
> [9] http://support.myitdepartment.net
> [10] http://blog.myitdepartment.net
> [11] http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4
> [12]
> 
> http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/sipXecs/Display+SIP+message+flow+using+Sipviewer
> [13] mailto:[email protected]
> [14]
> http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/sipXecs/Remote+User+NAT+Traversal
> [15] mailto:[email protected]
> [16] http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
> [17] mailto:[email protected]
> [18] mailto:[email protected]
> [19] mailto:[email protected]
> [20] http://support.myitdepartment.net
> [21] http://support.myitdepartment.net
> [22] http://blog.myitdepartment.net
> [23] http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4
> [24] mailto:[email protected]
> [25] http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
> [26] mailto:[email protected]
> [27]
> http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/sipXecs/Remote+User+NAT+Traversal
> [28] mailto:[email protected]
> [29] http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
> [30] mailto:[email protected]
> [31] mailto:[email protected]
> [32] mailto:[email protected]
> [33] http://support.myitdepartment.net
> [34] http://blog.myitdepartment.net
> [35] http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4
> [36]
> 
> http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/sipXecs/Display+SIP+message+flow+using+Sipviewer
> [37] mailto:[email protected]
> [38]
> http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/sipXecs/Remote+User+NAT+Traversal
> [39] mailto:[email protected]
> [40] http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
> [41] mailto:[email protected]
> [42] mailto:[email protected]
> [43] mailto:[email protected]
> [44] http://support.myitdepartment.net
> [45] http://support.myitdepartment.net
> [46] http://blog.myitdepartment.net
> [47] http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4
> [48] mailto:[email protected]
> [49] http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
> [50] mailto:[email protected]
> [51] http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
> [52] mailto:[email protected]
> [53] mailto:[email protected]
> [54]
> http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/sipXecs/Remote+User+NAT+Traversal
> [55] mailto:[email protected]
> [56] http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
> [57] mailto:[email protected]
> [58] mailto:[email protected]
> [59] mailto:[email protected]
> [60] http://support.myitdepartment.net
> [61] http://blog.myitdepartment.net
> [62] http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4
> [63]
> 
> http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/sipXecs/Display+SIP+message+flow+using+Sipviewer
> [64] mailto:[email protected]
> [65]
> http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/sipXecs/Remote+User+NAT+Traversal
> [66] mailto:[email protected]
> [67] http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
> [68] mailto:[email protected]
> [69] mailto:[email protected]
> [70] mailto:[email protected]
> [71] http://support.myitdepartment.net
> [72] http://support.myitdepartment.net
> [73] http://blog.myitdepartment.net
> [74] http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4
> [75] mailto:[email protected]
> [76] http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
> [77] mailto:[email protected]
> [78]
> http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/sipXecs/Remote+User+NAT+Traversal
> [79] mailto:[email protected]
> [80] http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
> [81] mailto:[email protected]
> [82] mailto:[email protected]
> [83] mailto:[email protected]
> [84] http://support.myitdepartment.net
> [85] http://blog.myitdepartment.net
> [86] http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4
> [87]
> 
> http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/sipXecs/Display+SIP+message+flow+using+Sipviewer
> [88] mailto:[email protected]
> [89]
> http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/sipXecs/Remote+User+NAT+Traversal
> [90] mailto:[email protected]
> [91] http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
> [92] mailto:[email protected]
> [93] mailto:[email protected]
> [94] mailto:[email protected]
> [95] http://support.myitdepartment.net
> [96] http://support.myitdepartment.net
> [97] http://blog.myitdepartment.net
> [98] http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4
> [99] mailto:[email protected]
> [100] http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
> [101] mailto:[email protected]
> [102] http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
> [103] mailto:[email protected]
> [104] http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/

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