Send me a link to that post on the pfsense board if you would.

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Max DiOrio <[email protected]> wrote:
> That was the setup that pfSense support recommended.  I'm surprised that 
> being the firewall experts, they didn't recommend a different configuration 
> like the one that Tony offered me.  Our office is quite slow today and 
> Monday, so Tuesday would be the first good test of call quality with higher 
> volume.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony Graziano
> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 12:10 PM
> To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] pfSense QoS
>
> He was prioritizing an IP address in his firewall. The problem with that is 
> he was not prioritizing the ports only, so when he hits the webgui for the 
> firewall, it cannot discern that traffic from voice traffic.
>
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 12:07 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Anyhow, increase the bandwidth for Voip, I think you have no other
>> important stuff over this line, so give it 100% (or just 80%).
>> The question is what is going on so that 1 call can be affected and 4
>> can be OK, it must be some non-voip traffic that is eating up the bandwidth.
>> Question is also what bandwidth, internally or internet. It would be
>> nice to see whether your captures show packet loss.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> Max DiOrio <[email protected]> wrote on 30-09-2011 17:18:57:
>>
>>
>>> Sorry, my day had already ended here at work by the time I got around
>>> to seeing these posts.
>>>
>>> I am using the pfSense admin interface remotely.  The interfaces are
>>> set to default for both, which is detected as 100baseTX full-duplex.
>>>
>>> The system is a Pentium D 3.4GHz with 1GB of RAM, only 20% used.
>>> The system is oversized.
>>>
>>> I can't connect a phone to the modem since it's in bridged mode.
>>> Phones are connected to my DLink PoE switch and straight into
>>> pfsense.   Our office is almost always quiet.  Only one or two calls
>>> going on at any given moment.  We only have 10 phones.  It's totally
>>> random when the call quality is affected.  Could be on a single call,
>>> but it could be fine when 4 calls are going on at the same time.
>>>
>>> I have packet captures taken all day yesterday on the pfSense box on
>>> both the LAN and the WAN side of the box.  I need to copy them over
>>> to my PC to look.  I have the caps from two calls in which I know the
>>> voice quality was affected.
>>>
>>> [image removed]
>>>
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:sipx-users-
>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected]
>>> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 3:07 AM
>>> To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
>>> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] pfSense QoS
>>>
>>> I think Max has a local problem. Especially if he is using the
>>> pfsense gui from the local network (never saw an answer to that
>>> question if I am not mistaken).
>>> Either the pfsense box has a duplex mismatch, is heavily under
>>> dimensioned or something else is wrong.
>>>
>>> I would connect a phone to the ADSL modem (so as close to the
>>> internet, separated from the rest of the network through the pfsense
>>> box, but not the internet) and do some tests from the user phones.
>>> If you don't have traffic monitoring it would be good to look at port
>>> utilization and queueing in the switch(es).
>>> QoS is certainly nice and needed, but it only kicks in when an
>>> outgoing port queues anything, so you need to be generating quite
>>> some traffic before it kicks in.
>>> (At home I have a 2Mbps/256kbps ADSL (because of distance issues) and
>>> voip-voice is A-OK without QoS, but when daughter-dear starts a
>>> Youtube it's byebye decent audio (only for me, not for the other
>>> side, so the 2Mbps is the problem, not the 256 Kbps, this also shows
>>> how much effort ITSP's put in in providing decent services
>>> (ISP=ITSP))))))))).
>>>
>>> BTW: If you have any managed switches in the flow where you did not
>>> configure QoS then the QoS is normally back to 0, normally a managed
>>> switch by default does not trust QoS settings in packets and resets
>>> it to nada. Cisco style: mls qos trust dscp and mls qos trust cos
>>>
>>> BTW2: Have you placed test calls when the network was relatively
>>> quiet (out-of-office hours)?
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> Tony Graziano <[email protected]> wrote on 30-09-2011 02:18:46:
>>>
>>> > I would do a traceroute to somewhere like googledns, 8.8.8.8, then
>>> > look at the first few hops and see if they are also on the
>>> > providers network and whst your latency to those points are and
>>> > also to the itsp gateway/proxy you use.
>>> >
>>> > I just went through a dozen sites for a customer to make
>>> > recommendations. After doing the basic reports, and wasting a lot
>>> > of time with teeny providers saying they were fine, we started
>>> > replacing the connection with something better than 2.5mb down/512k
>>> > up no name dsl providers. We saw instant results and none of these
>>> > sites are running voice services over the internet.
>>> >
>>> > Always look at the entire network and if your internet is crappy,
>>> > set expectations accordingly and have it fixed or replaced. Whether
>>> > it is used just to get to the provider pop and not the internet
>>> > doesnt matter. What matters is whether it is a quality connection.
>>> > If you dont have the quality, there a whole lot you just cant pull of.
>>>
>>> > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Max DiOrio <[email protected]>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > Given my ISP is my ITSP, shouldn' tmy delay be lower than 16ms avg?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:sipx-users-
>>> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony Graziano
>>> > Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 2:52 PM
>>> >
>>> > To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
>>> > Subject: Re: [sipx-users] pfSense QoS
>>> >
>>> > Kick yerself in the pants or not. Make sure your QUALITY is good.
>>> > Look at your quality graphs and make sure you don't have latency.
>>> > If it was easy, everybody would be doing it.
>>> > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Max DiOrio <[email protected]>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > The thing that is kicking me in the pants is, should all this be
>>> > necessary for 10 phones on a dedicated VoIP only 9 x 1.5
>>> > connection?  The only data traffic on this ISP is administration
>>> > websites.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > [image removed]
>>> >
>>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:sipx-users-
>>> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony Graziano
>>> > Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 2:42 PM
>>> >
>>> > To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
>>> > Subject: Re: [sipx-users] pfSense QoS
>>> >
>>> > Let's not confuse qos with shaping. In the meantime I've emailed
>>> > you my beta version of the pfsense shaper wizard for sipxecs using
>>> > pfsense 2.0. I'd backup your config, and the files you are
>>> > replacing in the event you want to revert it. I'm running it without 
>>> > issues.
>>> >
>>> > If the ITSP is not your ISP the qos is probably lost on them. If
>>> > not, it's a "switch" function which means a procurve/cisco/juniper
>>> > or something a little more smartie pants'ish is in your near future.
>>> >
>>> > Re-run the shaper with the same bandwdith and type and see if it
>>> > properly shapes bot call directions. This one is particular to your
>>> > provider, as it markes UDP 49152-53000 and 30000-31000 instead of
>>> > only 10000-20000 and 30000-31000 udp.
>>> >
>>> > It should ignore the IP and also use just 5060/tcp/udp and 5080udp
>>> > along with the ports above to queue the bandwidth according to the
>>> > best available.
>>> > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Josh Patten <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > Life would be much easier if you set your QoS precedence (priority)
>>> > to 5. Read on for why
>>> >
>>> > 5 in binary is 101
>>> > 6 in binary is 110
>>> > 7 in binary is 111
>>> > DSCP 46, which is what all RTP traffic normally uses and what most
>>> > routers/switches/gateways/phones are set to use by default to tag/
>>> > prioritize RTP traffic, in binary is 101 110 (notice how I put a
>>> space there)
>>> >
>>> > The first three bits are the precedence field which can be 0-7 (000
>>> > to 111). Only 0-5 should be used for user traffic. 6 and 7 are
>>> > reserved for internetwork control and network control, respectively.
>>> > The remaining 3 bits are, in order, delay (0=normal, 1=low),
>>> > throughput (0=normal, 1=high), and reliability (0=normal, 1=high)
>>> > -
>>> > -So for DSCP 46 you have a precedence value of 5 (101), low delay
>>> > (1), high throughput (1), and normal reliability (0). Put all this
>>> > together and you have 101110 binary which is equal to 46 decimal.
>>> >
>>> > Also, if you are using sipXbridge then the VoIP traffic that is
>>> > reaching it is not being tagged. This needs to be done at the
>>> > switch level it possible.
>>> >
>>> > Try getting all your voice stuff back to precedence level 5 and
>>> > setting your QoS stuff for VoIP to precedence level 5.
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Max DiOrio <[email protected]>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > pfSense is set with floating rules, defining any UDP traffic
>>> > destined for my sip trunks gets put into the qVoIP.  Also any UDP
>>> > traffic from my VoIP server to any destination gets put into the qVoIP.
>>> >
>>> > Wouldn't this be enough to pull all RTP packets into the qVoIP
>>> > priority queue and therefore be set to a priority of 7 in this
>>> > case. and
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I'm wondering if we're running into problems with the way the
>>> > bandwidth and SC is configured on the qVoIP queues.  Shouldn't the
>>> > bandwidth be set to 86Kbits/s and an RealTime SC m2 of 860Kb?
>>> >
>>> > WAN HFSC Bandwidth 1572 Kbit/s
>>> > WAN qACK Priority 6, Bandwidth 19.602%, Link Share SC m2 of 19.602%
>>> > WAN qDefault has priority 3, Bandwidth 9.801% WAN qVoIP priority 7,
>>> > bandwidth of 32Kbits/s, with Real time SC and an m2 of 240Kb.
>>> >
>>> > LAN HFSC
>>> > LAN qLink priority 2, queue limit 500, Bandwidth 20% LAN qInternet,
>>> > Priority 1, Bandwidth 9Mbit/s, Upperlimit SC m2 of 9Mb, LinkShare
>>> > SC m2 of 9Mb LAN qInternet qACK priority 6, Bandwidth 19.48%,
>>> > Linkshare SC m2 of 19.48% LAN qInternet qVOIP priority 7, bandwidth
>>> > of 32Kbits/s, with Real time SC and an m2 of 240Kb
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > [image removed]
>>> >
>>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:sipx-users-
>>> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Max DiOrio
>>> > Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 1:35 PM
>>> >
>>> > To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
>>> > Subject: Re: [sipx-users] pfSense QoS
>>> >
>>> > Using Polycom 550's with their default QoS settings.
>>> >
>>> > We are using sipXbridge for our ITSP connection.
>>> >
>>> > How do you recommend I set up QoS for sipXbridge?
>>> >
>>> > [image removed]
>>> >
>>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:sipx-users-
>>> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Picher
>>> > Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 12:36 PM
>>> > To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
>>> > Subject: Re: [sipx-users] pfSense QoS
>>> >
>>> > Right but the point here is that the sipXecs server does not flag
>>> > its traffic for QoS (dscp or cos).  Most people don't realize this.
>>> >
>>> > Also, if you use sipXbridge it's on the sipXecs server.
>>> >
>>> > Mike
>>> > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Max DiOrio
>>> > <[email protected]>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > All VoIP traffic is showing up in the correct qVoIP queue in both
>>> directions.
>>> >
>>> > pfSense support set up floating rules to match traffic based on IP
>>> > address.
>>> >
>>> > I don't have access to the switch right now, I'm working on that,
>>> > but it's just a typical DLink smart switch, which I believe passes
>>> > QoS through.
>>> >
>>> > [image removed]
>>> >
>>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:sipx-users-
>>> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony Graziano
>>> > Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 11:32 AM
>>> >
>>> > To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
>>> > Subject: Re: [sipx-users] pfSense QoS
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Max DiOrio
>>> > <[email protected]>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > Tony,
>>> >
>>> > Here's a response from my ITSP:
>>> >
>>> > "Hm, that's odd. If there's no other traffic and the DSL circuit is
>>> > clean then you shouldn't have any packet loss. Why do you have such
>>> > a large circuit if you're only doing voice?
>>> >
>>> > They didn't really say that did they? Give me a break. How many
>>> > calls simultaneous *85'ish k sets your needed bandwidth.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Sounds like there's something else going on. A packet capture would
>>> > be helpful, and at least tell us if you're receiving all the
>>> > packets or not. Sometimes packet loss can be the result of late
>>> > arrivals to the jitter buffer - what's the jitter buffer set to?
>>> > Normally defaults are at 50ms.
>>> >
>>> > Regardless, we're coming from 64.246.135.202, SIP is on UDP 5080,
>>> > and RTP is on UDP ports 49152 - 53000."
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > OK, so we need to add ports 49152-53000 to this for them. I'll whip
>>> > you up a set set of files and send them to you.
>>> >
>>> > Let me know what your pfSense 2.0 wizard is now.
>>> >
>>> > Jitter buffer in sipXecs for 711u is 40ms isn't it?  Would 10ms
>>> > added to the jitter buffer help?
>>> >
>>> > My users are having problems today actually.  And this time, the
>>> > people outside are the ones hearing the choppy audio.  My users say
>>> > what they hear is fine.
>>> >
>>> > I'm working with pfSense on an issue with the QoS queues that
>>> > appear to be broken.  If I'm using the pfSense administration page
>>> > and transmitting HTTP data like refreshing the RRD page, while on a
>>> > call, the call audio gets choppy.  The HTTP data is going through
>>> > the default Queue however, so I'm not sure why my VoIP queue
>>> > priority isn't taking over.
>>> >
>>> >  It most likely because the calls are not recognized in the status/
>>> > queues. You should see voice calls shaped in both directions in in
>>> > in/out queue when someone is talking.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Now this isn't a huge deal as I'm almost never in the admin pages
>>> > of pfSense or sipXecs, but if the queue isn't working for this,
>>> > maybe it's not working under load.  I am seeing a lot of queue
>>> > drops in VoIP queue on occasion though.  Love the RRD graphs.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Drops make me think there is a quality isssue/latency. Look at the
>>> > wan interface in question and look at the quality graph. Is ou
>>> > switch set for qos internally?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks!
>>> >
>>> > [image removed]
>>> >
>>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:sipx-users-
>>> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Max DiOrio
>>> > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 1:38 PM
>>> >
>>> > To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
>>> > Subject: Re: [sipx-users] pfSense QoS
>>> >
>>> > That makes sense.  I'll find out what the ports they use are and
>>> > get back to you.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > [image removed]
>>> >
>>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:sipx-users-
>>> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony Graziano
>>> > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 1:15 PM
>>> > To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
>>> > Subject: Re: [sipx-users] pfSense QoS
>>> >
>>> > OK. I updated MY scripts for 1.2.3, 2.0 is "very different" too.
>>> > What I found is that I need to also specifiy the media ports the
>>> > ITSP uses when they send me calls.
>>> >
>>> > So while I shape ports 5060, 5080, 30000-31000, I am not
>>> > necessarily applying anything to calls I receive from the ITSP if
>>> > they specify duifferent ports (which they will).
>>> >
>>> > So find out what media ports they specify and I can help you get
>>> > the new wizard working. As an example, maybe your outbound calls
>>> > are fine, but you might be having more quality issues with calls
>>> > from the itsp to you...
>>> > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Max DiOrio
>>> > <[email protected]>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > CornerStone Telephone.  They're a decent sized local carrier.  They
>>> > cover all of New York State, Western Mass, and Northern PA.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > [image removed]
>>> >
>>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:sipx-users-
>>> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony Graziano
>>> > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 11:28 AM
>>> >
>>> > To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
>>> > Subject: Re: [sipx-users] pfSense QoS
>>> >
>>> > who is the itsp?
>>> > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Max DiOrio
>>> > <[email protected]>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > Yes, it is a 2.0 install.  pfSense said that it can't be the QoS
>>> > causing the problems as it doesn't show any dropped packets for the
>>> > queues, so I'm not overflowing them.
>>> >
>>> > I have UDP 30000-31000, UDP 5080, TCP/UDP 5060 NAT'd to the sipX
>>> > server.  I believe I followed your wizard when I set this up back
>>> > in August.  Have you updated it at all?
>>> >
>>> > With choppy audio and dropped calls I'm not sure how it would be a
>>> > port problem.  I would think port problems would manifest
>>> > themselves as no audio/no connection issues.
>>> >
>>> > [image removed]
>>> >
>>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:sipx-users-
>>> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony Graziano
>>> > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 11:05 AM
>>> > To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
>>> > Subject: Re: [sipx-users] pfSense QoS
>>> >
>>> > pfsense does floating rules but my guess is not all of the ports
>>> > are properly specified. Is this a 2.0 install? If so, you might
>>> > want my new wizard for setting that up.
>>> > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Max DiOrio
>>> > <[email protected]>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > I was hoping someone can take a quick look at my QoS settings and
>>> > let me know if anything is off.  My users are complaining that
>>> > they're having choppy audio and an occasional dropped call.  Our
>>> > ITSP/ISP says everything is fine on their end.  The QoS settings
>>> > were tweaked by pfSense.  We have a DSL connection that's supposed
>>> to be 9/1.5
>>> >
>>> > I'm just trying to figure out a way to pin the troubles back on
>>> the ITSP/ISP.
>>> >
>>> > <shaper>
>>> >            <queue>
>>> >                 <interface>lan</interface>
>>> >                 <name>lan</name>
>>> >                 <scheduler>HFSC</scheduler>
>>> >                 <bandwidth/>
>>> >                 <bandwidthtype/>
>>> >                 <enabled>on</enabled>
>>> >                 <queue>
>>> >                      <name>qLink</name>
>>> >                      <interface>lan</interface>
>>> >                      <qlimit>500</qlimit>
>>> >                      <priority>2</priority>
>>> >                      <bandwidth>20</bandwidth>
>>> >                      <bandwidthtype>%</bandwidthtype>
>>> >                      <enabled>on</enabled>
>>> >                      <default>on</default>
>>> >                      <ecn>on</ecn>
>>> >                 </queue>
>>> >                 <queue>
>>> >                      <name>qInternet</name>
>>> >                      <interface>lan</interface>
>>> >                      <bandwidth>9</bandwidth>
>>> >                      <bandwidthtype>Mb</bandwidthtype>
>>> >                      <enabled>on</enabled>
>>> >                      <ecn>on</ecn>
>>> >                      <linkshare3>9Mb</linkshare3>
>>> >                      <linkshare>on</linkshare>
>>> >                      <upperlimit3>9Mb</upperlimit3>
>>> >                      <upperlimit>on</upperlimit>
>>> >                      <queue>
>>> >                            <name>qACK</name>
>>> >                            <interface>lan</interface>
>>> >                            <priority>6</priority>
>>> >                            <bandwidth>19.48</bandwidth>
>>> >                            <bandwidthtype>%</bandwidthtype>
>>> >                            <enabled>on</enabled>
>>> >                            <ecn>on</ecn>
>>> >                            <linkshare3>19.48%</linkshare3>
>>> >                            <linkshare>on</linkshare>
>>> >                      </queue>
>>> >                      <queue>
>>> >                            <name>qVoIP</name>
>>> >                            <interface>lan</interface>
>>> >                            <priority>7</priority>
>>> >                            <bandwidth>32</bandwidth>
>>> >                            <bandwidthtype>Kb</bandwidthtype>
>>> >                            <enabled>on</enabled>
>>> >                            <ecn>on</ecn>
>>> >                            <realtime3>240Kb</realtime3>
>>> >                            <realtime>on</realtime>
>>> >                      </queue>
>>> >                 </queue>
>>> >            </queue>
>>> >            <queue>
>>> >                 <interface>wan</interface>
>>> >                 <name>wan</name>
>>> >                 <scheduler>HFSC</scheduler>
>>> >                 <bandwidth>1572</bandwidth>
>>> >                 <bandwidthtype>Kb</bandwidthtype>
>>> >                 <enabled>on</enabled>
>>> >                 <queue>
>>> >                      <name>qACK</name>
>>> >                      <interface>wan</interface>
>>> >                      <priority>6</priority>
>>> >                      <bandwidth>19.602</bandwidth>
>>> >                      <bandwidthtype>%</bandwidthtype>
>>> >                      <enabled>on</enabled>
>>> >                      <ecn>on</ecn>
>>> >                      <linkshare3>19.602%</linkshare3>
>>> >                      <linkshare>on</linkshare>
>>> >                 </queue>
>>> >                 <queue>
>>> >                      <name>qDefault</name>
>>> >                      <interface>wan</interface>
>>> >                      <priority>3</priority>
>>> >                      <bandwidth>9.801</bandwidth>
>>> >                      <bandwidthtype>%</bandwidthtype>
>>> >                      <enabled>on</enabled>
>>> >                      <default>on</default>
>>> >                      <ecn>on</ecn>
>>> >                 </queue>
>>> >                 <queue>
>>> >                      <name>qVoIP</name>
>>> >                      <interface>wan</interface>
>>> >                      <priority>7</priority>
>>> >                      <bandwidth>32</bandwidth>
>>> >                      <bandwidthtype>Kb</bandwidthtype>
>>> >                      <enabled>on</enabled>
>>> >                      <ecn>on</ecn>
>>> >                      <realtime3>240Kb</realtime3>
>>> >                      <realtime>on</realtime>
>>> >                 </queue>
>>> >            </queue>
>>> >      </shaper>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > [image removed]
>>> >
>>> >
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>>>
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > ======================
>>> > Tony Graziano, Manager
>>> > Telephone: 434.984.8430
>>> > sip: [email protected]
>>> > Fax: 434.465.6833
>>> >
>>> > Email: [email protected]
>>> >
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>>> >
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>>>
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > ======================
>>> > Tony Graziano, Manager
>>> > Telephone: 434.984.8430
>>> > sip: [email protected]
>>> > Fax: 434.465.6833
>>> >
>>> > Email: [email protected]
>>> >
>>> > LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>>> > Telephone: 434.984.8426
>>> > sip: [email protected]
>>> >
>>> > Helpdesk Contract Customers:
>>> > http://support.myitdepartment.net
>>> >
>>> > Blog:
>>> > http://blog.myitdepartment.net
>>> >
>>> > Linked-In Profile:
>>> > http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4
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>>>
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > ======================
>>> > Tony Graziano, Manager
>>> > Telephone: 434.984.8430
>>> > sip: [email protected]
>>> > Fax: 434.465.6833
>>> >
>>> > Email: [email protected]
>>> >
>>> > LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>>> > Telephone: 434.984.8426
>>> > sip: [email protected]
>>> >
>>> > Helpdesk Contract Customers:
>>> > http://support.myitdepartment.net
>>> >
>>> > Blog:
>>> > http://blog.myitdepartment.net
>>> >
>>> > Linked-In Profile:
>>> > http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4
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>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > ======================
>>> > Tony Graziano, Manager
>>> > Telephone: 434.984.8430
>>> > sip: [email protected]
>>> > Fax: 434.465.6833
>>> >
>>> > Email: [email protected]
>>> >
>>> > LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>>> > Telephone: 434.984.8426
>>> > sip: [email protected]
>>> >
>>> > Helpdesk Contract Customers:
>>> > http://support.myitdepartment.net
>>> >
>>> > Blog:
>>> > http://blog.myitdepartment.net
>>> >
>>> > Linked-In Profile:
>>> > http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4
>>> >
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>>> >
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>>> > Michael Picher
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>>> > Director of Technical Services
>>> > O.978-296-1005 X2015
>>> > M.207-956-0262
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>>> > --
>>> > Josh Patten
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>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > ======================
>>> > Tony Graziano, Manager
>>> > Telephone: 434.984.8430
>>> > sip: [email protected]
>>> > Fax: 434.465.6833
>>> >
>>> > Email: [email protected]
>>> >
>>> > LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>>> > Telephone: 434.984.8426
>>> > sip: [email protected]
>>> >
>>> > Helpdesk Contract Customers:
>>> > http://support.myitdepartment.net
>>> >
>>> > Blog:
>>> > http://blog.myitdepartment.net
>>> >
>>> > Linked-In Profile:
>>> > http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4
>>> >
>>> > Ask about our Internet Fax services!
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>>> > [email protected]
>>> > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > ======================
>>> > Tony Graziano, Manager
>>> > Telephone: 434.984.8430
>>> > sip: [email protected]
>>> > Fax: 434.465.6833
>>> >
>>> > Email: [email protected]
>>> >
>>> > LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>>> > Telephone: 434.984.8426
>>> > sip: [email protected]
>>> >
>>> > Helpdesk Contract Customers:
>>> > http://support.myitdepartment.net
>>> >
>>> > Blog:
>>> > http://blog.myitdepartment.net
>>> >
>>> > Linked-In Profile:
>>> > http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4
>>> >
>>> > Ask about our Internet Fax services!
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > ======================
>>> > Tony Graziano, Manager
>>> > Telephone: 434.984.8430
>>> > sip: [email protected]
>>> > Fax: 434.465.6833
>>> >
>>> > Email: [email protected]
>>> >
>>> > LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>>> > Telephone: 434.984.8426
>>> > sip: [email protected]
>>> >
>>> > Helpdesk Contract Customers:
>>> > http://support.myitdepartment.net
>>> >
>>> > Blog:
>>> > http://blog.myitdepartment.net
>>> >
>>> > Linked-In Profile:
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>>> >
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>
>
> --
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> Telephone: 434.984.8430
> sip: [email protected]
> Fax: 434.465.6833
>
> Email: [email protected]
>
> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
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> sip: [email protected]
>
> Helpdesk Contract Customers:
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> Blog:
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sip: [email protected]
Fax: 434.465.6833

Email: [email protected]

LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
Telephone: 434.984.8426
sip: [email protected]

Helpdesk Contract Customers:
http://support.myitdepartment.net
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