I think we already had that discussion and abandoned the idea months ago because that meant, among other things, 100% of calls would have to be answered by the IVR, and it would breakk all kinds of call forwarding, for example.
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Joegen Baclor <[email protected]> wrote: > Detecting fax then relay it to a fax capable device in real time will be > very hard to achieve. it all boils down to whether you could reset T.38 > negotiation once it was started. Perhaps we should be looking at a store > and forward approach where IVR receives the fax on behalf of, then relay the > fax after completion. > > > On 09/30/2011 06:01 PM, Tony Graziano wrote: >> >> A lot of this has already been discussed in the original JIRA: >> http://track.sipfoundry.org/browse/XX-8645 >> >> 1. sipx should configure and load mod_spandsp (it also affects codecs >> support in general) for normal operation. >> 2. sipxconfig should allow more than JUST numeric characters as the >> alias for fax extension. If coming on siptrunk, some carriers may send >> more than just numbers (i.e. +19995551212 instead of 19995551212, >> 9995551212 or 5551212). >> 3. Can the proxy/media server be enabled in a way to auto detect a fax >> if the fax is sent to the user (i.e., someone dials 200 from an >> internal fax machine connected via ATA that supports t.38, user 200 is >> a softphone, therefore the call goes to VM. Vm server IS what receives >> faxes also. If there is a phone registered, an the proxy detect that >> it is a fax and autp send it to the users fax account?). >> 4. TIFF makes sense (multipage image) for faxes. Does it also make >> sense to allow the user to choose something else, like PDF? >> 5. Does it make sense to allow user to upload files to send out via >> fax and harness the system address book to find already stored fax >> numbers or allow them to input a fax number? if so, what about cover >> sheet support? >> 6. In system preferences, there should be two ranges (users extension, >> like 200-299, and fax ranges like 300-399). When creating a user it >> should also pre-populate the next available extension from the fax >> range and allow it to be edited during creation. >> 7. user should be allowed to download//view faxes in sipxconfig UI. >> 8. user should be allowed to be alerted if fax is received by IM >> (MyBuddy). >> 9. User should be able to audibly hear about faxes in IVR when >> checking voicemail, etc. >> >> As you can see the original objective was to be able to support >> inbound faxes, which is done. PDF support is coming by way of a patch >> soon. Items 5-9 were not yet implemented, and there is also the added >> item of a SMB connector that is being discussed in this thread. This >> means there are "5" additional features or enhancements possible, >> >> Obviously another JIRA would need to be created before each item is >> worked. Example: >> >> http://track.sipfoundry.org/browse/XX-9772 >> http://track.sipfoundry.org/browse/XX-9776 >> http://track.sipfoundry.org/browse/XX-9260 >> >> So rather than re-discuss it, let's work with what we already know and >> maybe someone wants to make a feature request/enhancement (keeping the >> above unworked items in mind) to get them added to the JIRA and >> tracked? It would be something that needs discussion (perhaps per >> item) because t.38 might not be available on every gateway, so in the >> outbound fax setup the admin might have to select only the gateway(s) >> that are t.38 compatible for sending faxes, etc. >> >> We already know FS can do outbound faxing via t.38, but we do need to >> be able to provide a centralized method in sipxecs to control that. >> (i.e. permissions, etc.). >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 3:38 AM, Domenico Chierico >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, 2011-09-29 at 22:15 -0400, Paul Herron wrote: >>>> >>>> Try looking at HylaFAX for a sending option and use Sipx for the >>>> receive. That's the exact solution I'm trying to build. >>>> >>>> The only problem in the open source version of HylaFAX is building that >>>> damn T38 modem. I still haven't figured that one out and just don't have >>>> the time. Building open source HylaFAX itself isn't that hard. >>>> >>>> Now, if you are willing to spend a little $$ and save yourself a lot of >>>> headache and time, iFax Soulutions (the equivalent to HylaFAX of ezuce to >>>> Sipx) has a pre-built HylaFAX VM that has a Brooktrout T38 modem, web Gui, >>>> 50 HylaFAX FSP client licenses and a bunch of other features for @$1600. >>>> They offer a free trial -- which I signed up for but didn't get the chance >>>> to try because I'm too busy right now -- >>>> http://www.ifax.com/products/hylafax/hylafax.html. If someone is willing >>>> to >>>> try it out and report back, I be real interested to hear about your >>>> experience. >>>> >>>> -Paul >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> why not integrate a script spooler into sipx for sending fax from mail ?! >>>> >>>> Paul Herron Principal >>>> >>>> Sage Craftsmen, LLC >>>> >>>> [email protected] | 202 570 7030 >>>> >>>> www.sagecraftsmen.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Happy is the home that shelters >>>> a friend. -- RALPH WALDO EMERSON >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> Sent: Thu, 9/29/2011 4:01pm >>>> To: sipx-users<[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] FW: Centralized Faxing >>>> >>>>> Receive only Mike. >>>>> Look at t38faxvoip.com for a comm port product that you may be able to >>>>> use. >>>>> I have a customer using it with 3cX. >>>> >>>> Oh darn, misunderstood then. Thought Steve was saying this is here or >>>> coming? >>>> The avantfax server does the trick it's just that not having to maintain >>>> separate accounts would be so great. >>>> >>>> Would it be possible to take some open source fax sending package, and >>>> tie it into sipx as a separate box? Almost like running sipx in HA mode, >>>> but >>>> that one of those separate servers would only be for outgoing faxing. >>>> >>>> It would be so nice to have it all built into one environment. >>>> >>>> I'll take a look at the lead you sent, thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sipx-users mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sipx-users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >>> >> >> > > -- ====================== Tony Graziano, Manager Telephone: 434.984.8430 sip: [email protected] Fax: 434.465.6833 Email: [email protected] LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk: Telephone: 434.984.8426 sip: [email protected] Helpdesk Contract Customers: http://support.myitdepartment.net Blog: http://blog.myitdepartment.net Linked-In Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4 Ask about our Internet Fax services! _______________________________________________ sipx-users mailing list [email protected] List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
