Yup realized right after I clicked send. Oh well. (can't we all just get 
along?)

On 12/29/2011 8:54 PM, Matthew Kitchin (usenet/public) wrote:
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> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 20:51:36
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> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] flowroute VPRI IP authentication
>
> Off list (so as not to piss anyone off)... you are so right about how
> people are treated on this list. One of the reasons I stopped posting
> here and recommending sipx to customers. The other being the random
> dropped calls issue from two years ago, I follow the list only to see if
> the problem has been fixed. Neither have IMHO.
>
> I hope it all works for you, and by the way I knew what you meant as
> soon as I read it.
>
> On 12/29/2011 8:12 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> Sigh what?   Mike, read about PRI -
>> Sigh... because you took the time to agree with Tony, giving me grief while 
>> at the same time pointing out that you were not doing that. Of course you 
>> were. Since Tony had already made his point, why did you need to bring it up 
>> again?
>>
>> You then post a separate reply to the original question when just before 
>> that, you told me you didn't know what I was talking about.
>>
>> Sigh because as soon as I point out the obvious such as I am now having to 
>> do, a few of you must at all costs have fun with this, turning the persons 
>> post into garbage making points like 'we need to understand'. Does someone 
>> else feel the need still?
>>
>> Of course you know what I was asking about, I've seen plenty of people 
>> talking about virtual PRI's. Who the heck would not know that a VPRI might 
>> simply be an abbreviation. Doesn't seem to be at the moment but give it time 
>> maybe :).
>>
>> Bottom line is that there are a few old timers on this list that seem to 
>> feel the need to be hard nosed to people. Why? Maybe a few of the users are 
>> simply too freaking serious for no good reason. Give it a rest. There is no 
>> reason to be like that with ANYONE on this list.
>> No one makes you reply to anything, you don't have to. If you don't like how 
>> someone posts something, it's not your place to be the teacher or know it 
>> all and tell them how they need to learn everything about VoIP before ever 
>> taking the chance of using the wrong term while asking a question. God 
>> forbid!
>>
>>> That's all I'm saying, and I think that is
>>> what Tony was asking - what is it exactly.
>> A virtual PRI is really just a billing method for a SIP trunk. Figured 
>> pretty much anyone on this list would know that.
>> The question really was, how do I set up sipx so that I can use IP 
>> authentication to the ITSP over user/password.
>>
>> Anyways, moving on...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>>> [email protected]
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 7:08 PM
>>> To: sipx-users
>>> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] flowroute VPRI IP authentication
>>>
>>> <sigh>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:55:11 -0800, Todd Hodgen wrote:
>>>> Yes, but what is a virtual PRI?   Since PRI is an ISDN standard, what is
>>> the
>>>> non-standard derivative that comes out of a Virtual PRI?   What is it
>>>> exactly?
>>>>
>>>> Is it maybe a PRI that is fed out of device that is actually fed via a T1
>>>> with SIP trunks on it?   If it is, its still a PRI, conforming to the PRI
>>>> standards, as it should.
>>>>
>>>> I believe what you are referring to is some companies marketing name
>>>> they use for a service they provide.  I don't think anyone is giving
>>>> you grief, we just have no idea what you are talking about since we
>>>> haven't had the pleasure of reading the material you have, and really
>>>> haven't a clue what this VPRI is.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:02 PM
>>>> To: sipx-users
>>>> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] flowroute VPRI IP authentication
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 17:20:57 -0500, Tony Graziano wrote:
>>>>> I dont know VPRI means. If you use terms noone but you might
>>>>> understand you might explain it a bit. Throwing that aside...
>>>>>
>>>> When I don't use the right terms, I get grief and when I use the terms
>>>> I'm seeing in docs, I still get grief :).
>>>> I would have called it Virtual PRI but flowroute itself seems to call
>>>> it VPRI for short.
>>>>
>>>>> flowroute is a two-edged sword: Use the bandwidth.com template and
>>>>> change the bandwidth.com gateway stuff to your flowroute gateway.
>>>>> make sure flowroute is swet to send to your ip address and port 5080.
>>>>> Very
>>>> simple.
>>>>
>>>> I'll take a look at this.
>>>>
>>>>> If you use dual wan with flowroute you may have issues if you route
>>>>> netblocks or providers via specific wan ports.
>>>>>
>>>> Flowroute will be the only gateway these sipx servers will know and have.
>>>>
>>>>> flowroute does not control
>>>>> the majority of their network and hence, RTP does not come from the
>>>>> same IP as the gateway. You pretty much have to open everything to
>>>>> use flowroute if you had been in locked down mode.
>>>>>
>>>> I didn't know this about them and to date, have always used an IP
>>>> allow rule for them.
>>>> Guess I've been lucky, haven't heard of any missed calls.
>>>>
>>>> These servers won't have any remote users but I wanted to have a bit
>>>> of security in place so figured I would block all but
>>>> sip.flowroute.com. Now I seem to have a new problem.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 5:10 PM, [email protected]
>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I need to install 4 separate sipx systems in four separate locations.
>>>>>> No interoffice communications.
>>>>> All of the sipx systems could benefit from the use of a VPRI rather
>>>>> than traditional.
>>>>>
>>>>> I use ITSP's for individual lines when we need an area code that our
>>>>> local telco cannot handle.
>>>>> On sipx, I usually just  create an ITSP device in the gateway section
>>>>> and let it authenticate via user name/password.
>>>>>
>>>>> In this case, due to the number of lines per server (4 to 8), it
>>>>> doesn't seem like a good idea to authenticate each and every DID
>>>>> individually for example and would prefer using an IP based
>>>>> authentication for the whole server.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll be using flowroute for the systems but am not sure how to
>>>>>> configure sipx to authenticate once based on IP over a user
>>>>>> name/password. I don't see anything which would allow me to do this
>>>>>> in the Gateway configuration section.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can someone shed some light on this please.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks very much.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
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