Yea, sonicwalls usually work fine...  out of ideas.

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Roman Gelfand <[email protected]> wrote:

> The far end firewall is sonicwall.  Also, I have previously setup sipx
> behind NAT firewall and far end sonicwall clients worked just fine.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:45 AM, Michael Picher <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> does it happen to be a netgear for the far end firewall (client side)?
>>
>> i've also seen this not disabled properly with dd-wrt.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Roman Gelfand <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> I am at a loss, I thought I had mentioned in my second post of this
>>> trail that I have done this.
>>>
>>> Anyway, are there any other ideas? and yes, sip-helpers and alg are
>>> disabled. Just to test that it is not firewall, I opened up all ports in
>>> both directions.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Tony Graziano <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was just showing him where the Nat traversal (media relay) was...
>>>>  On Mar 12, 2012 8:25 PM, "Michael Picher" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I know, but the pic showed it clearly checked.
>>>>> On Mar 12, 2012 7:51 PM, "Tony Graziano" <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:47 PM, Michael Picher <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> if your server is not behind nat, uncheck the 'server behind nat'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (this is what I sayeth to him already)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Tony Graziano <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Roman Gelfand <[email protected]
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Actually, I neglected to mention that...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1.  Snom are the local phones.  I use x-lite for the remote phone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2.  When I call from x-lite, as remote workder, and get to
>>>>>>>>> voicemail,
>>>>>>>>> there is sound both ways as I am able to save voicemail.  However,
>>>>>>>>> when a snom phone picks up, the snom phone picks up the sound but
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> x-lite.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I dont understand what you are trying to say here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps, I am missing a setting on snom?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What phones do you recommend?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BTW... NAT Traversal is set in internet calling.  Where do you set
>>>>>>>>> NAT
>>>>>>>>> Traversal in system?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Internet Calling
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - Internet 
>>>>>>>> Calling<https://10.255.252.64:8443/sipxconfig/dialplan/sbc/InternetCalling,$common$TabNavigation.$DirectLink_0.sdirect?sp=SinternetCalling&state:dialplan/sbc/InternetCalling=BrO0ABXcnAAAAAQEADiRjb21tb24kQm9yZGVyABBpbml0aWFsU2Vzc2lvbklkdAAMd25qNzJpeDY5cDNu>
>>>>>>>>    - NAT 
>>>>>>>> Traversal<https://10.255.252.64:8443/sipxconfig/dialplan/sbc/InternetCalling,$common$TabNavigation.$DirectLink_0.sdirect?sp=SnatTraversal&state:dialplan/sbc/InternetCalling=BrO0ABXcnAAAAAQEADiRjb21tb24kQm9yZGVyABBpbml0aWFsU2Vzc2lvbklkdAAMd25qNzJpeDY5cDNu>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    *Quick Links*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - Job 
>>>>>>>> Status<https://10.255.252.64:8443/sipxconfig/admin/JobStatusPage.html?state:dialplan/sbc/InternetCalling=BrO0ABXcnAAAAAQEADiRjb21tb24kQm9yZGVyABBpbml0aWFsU2Vzc2lvbklkdAAMd25qNzJpeDY5cDNu>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The NAT Traversal feature makes it possible to communicate with
>>>>>>>> remote users and endpoints that are behind near-end and far-end NATs. 
>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>> addition, it is possible to setup a multi-branch configuration over a
>>>>>>>> public network using standard firewalls.
>>>>>>>> Whenever it is detected that the two endpoints that are starting a
>>>>>>>> media session are separated by one or more NATs, the server will 
>>>>>>>> insert its
>>>>>>>> Media Relay into the media path. The NAT traversal feature supports 
>>>>>>>> full
>>>>>>>> cone, restricted cone, port restricted cone as well as symmetric NATs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In order to change the network topology (intranet domains and
>>>>>>>> subnets) please visit the Internet Calling page.
>>>>>>>>  Enable NAT Traversal  Enables NAT traversal capabilities in
>>>>>>>> support of remote workers and remote servers behind NAT
>>>>>>>> Server behind NAT Needs to be checked when the server is deployed
>>>>>>>> behind a NAT/Firewall.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Tony Graziano
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> > system, nat traversal, internet calling, nat traversal.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > i would ask other if snom supports moh and/or how it does.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Roman Gelfand <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> I am not sure I understand.  Does this mean, assuming
>>>>>>>>> everything is
>>>>>>>>> >> correctly configured, that the only problem I could have is due
>>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>> >> phone?
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> When you say,  "should be set to use media relay (remote
>>>>>>>>> users=yes)",
>>>>>>>>> >> where is it?
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> Thanks
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Tony Graziano
>>>>>>>>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >> > the server has a public ip address, and hence is not behind
>>>>>>>>> nat.
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> > the phones might also be behind a "different" network, and if
>>>>>>>>> so, should
>>>>>>>>> >> > be
>>>>>>>>> >> > set to use media relay (remote users=yes).
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> > the snom phones MAY NOT support the ietf draft for moh
>>>>>>>>> internally, but
>>>>>>>>> >> > might
>>>>>>>>> >> > for sipx bridge if it is anchoring pstn calls (sorry, i dont
>>>>>>>>> touch snom
>>>>>>>>> >> > anymore due to interop issues).
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Roman Gelfand <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> >> The topology is as follows.
>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> >> 1. The sipx server has public ip address in /29 network.  It
>>>>>>>>> is behind
>>>>>>>>> >> >> transparent mode firewall.  The nat traversal is checked.
>>>>>>>>>  In the
>>>>>>>>> >> >> server NAT configuration, I specified this server ip address.
>>>>>>>>> >> >> 2. The phones (snom 370) are on a lan.  The network traffic
>>>>>>>>> to and
>>>>>>>>> >> >> from sipx server server are routed. This lan is included in
>>>>>>>>> sipx
>>>>>>>>> >> >> networks.  Hence, it is nonat.
>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> >> The local calls work fine and sip trunk calls work fine.  I
>>>>>>>>> just found
>>>>>>>>> >> >> out the remote workers are not working.
>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> >> I am not sure if this configuration works with sipx.  If it
>>>>>>>>> does, I
>>>>>>>>> >> >> will send you the trace.
>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> >> Thanks again
>>>>>>>>> >> >> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Tony Graziano
>>>>>>>>> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >> >> > a call trace with a description of the call flow would do
>>>>>>>>> lots to
>>>>>>>>> >> >> > explain
>>>>>>>>> >> >> > why moh is not working.
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >> > describe the elements involved (sbc, gateway, UA), etc.
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >> > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Roman Gelfand <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> >> >> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> What should I be looking at if MOH is not working?
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> Thanks for the help.
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Tony Graziano
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> > Those are static messages that will always appear in
>>>>>>>>> the proxy
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> > unfortunately. I think they can be safely ignored. I
>>>>>>>>> think they
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> > appear
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> > whether moh works or not also.
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> > On Mar 12, 2012 9:44 AM, "Roman Gelfand" <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> I am getting consistantly the following messages in
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> sipXproxy.log.
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> 1. NatTraversalAgen[900_ntap]::handleOutputMessage
>>>>>>>>> failed to to
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> retrieve CallTracker to handle request
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> 2. SipXProxy:"SipUserAgent::dispatch received response
>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> transaction"
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> 3. SipXProxy:"HttpMessage::get[4] Receiving failed on
>>>>>>>>> persistent
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> connection on try 0"
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> Both remote workers and bridging works excecpt for
>>>>>>>>> MOH.  Are
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> these
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> messages related to MOH not working?
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> Can these messages be ignored?
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> sipx-users mailing list
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> List Archive:
>>>>>>>>> http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> > LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> > Telephone: 434.984.8426
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> > sip: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> > Helpdesk Customers: http://myhelp.myitdepartment.net
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> > Blog: http://blog.myitdepartment.net
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> > sipx-users mailing list
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> > [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> > List Archive:
>>>>>>>>> http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> sipx-users mailing list
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> List Archive:
>>>>>>>>> http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >> > --
>>>>>>>>> >> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>>> >> >> > Tony Graziano, Manager
>>>>>>>>> >> >> > Telephone: 434.984.8430
>>>>>>>>> >> >> > sip: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> >> >> > Fax: 434.465.6833
>>>>>>>>> >> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>>> >> >> > Linked-In Profile:
>>>>>>>>> >> >> > http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4
>>>>>>>>> >> >> > Ask about our Internet Fax services!
>>>>>>>>> >> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >> > LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>>>>>>>>> >> >> > Telephone: 434.984.8426
>>>>>>>>> >> >> > sip: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >> > Helpdesk Customers: http://myhelp.myitdepartment.net
>>>>>>>>> >> >> > Blog: http://blog.myitdepartment.net
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >> > _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> >> >> > sipx-users mailing list
>>>>>>>>> >> >> > [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> >> >> > List Archive:
>>>>>>>>> http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>>>>>>>> >> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> >> >> sipx-users mailing list
>>>>>>>>> >> >> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> >> >> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> > --
>>>>>>>>> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>>> >> > Tony Graziano, Manager
>>>>>>>>> >> > Telephone: 434.984.8430
>>>>>>>>> >> > sip: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> >> > Fax: 434.465.6833
>>>>>>>>> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>>> >> > Linked-In Profile:
>>>>>>>>> >> > http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4
>>>>>>>>> >> > Ask about our Internet Fax services!
>>>>>>>>> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> > LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>>>>>>>>> >> > Telephone: 434.984.8426
>>>>>>>>> >> > sip: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> > Helpdesk Customers: http://myhelp.myitdepartment.net
>>>>>>>>> >> > Blog: http://blog.myitdepartment.net
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> > _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> >> > sipx-users mailing list
>>>>>>>>> >> > [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> >> > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>>>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> >> sipx-users mailing list
>>>>>>>>> >> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> >> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>>>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>>> > Tony Graziano, Manager
>>>>>>>>> > Telephone: 434.984.8430
>>>>>>>>> > sip: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> > Fax: 434.465.6833
>>>>>>>>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>>> > Linked-In Profile:
>>>>>>>>> > http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4
>>>>>>>>> > Ask about our Internet Fax services!
>>>>>>>>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>>>>>>>>> > Telephone: 434.984.8426
>>>>>>>>> > sip: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Helpdesk Customers: http://myhelp.myitdepartment.net
>>>>>>>>> > Blog: http://blog.myitdepartment.net
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> > sipx-users mailing list
>>>>>>>>> > [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> sipx-users mailing list
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>> Tony Graziano, Manager
>>>>>>>> Telephone: 434.984.8430
>>>>>>>> sip: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> Fax: 434.465.6833
>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>> Linked-In Profile:
>>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4
>>>>>>>> Ask about our Internet Fax services!
>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>>>>>>>> Telephone: 434.984.8426
>>>>>>>> sip: 
>>>>>>>> [email protected].**net<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Helpdesk Customers: 
>>>>>>>> http://myhelp.myitdepartment.**net<http://myhelp.myitdepartment.net>
>>>>>>>> Blog: http://blog.myitdepartment.net
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> sipx-users mailing list
>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Michael Picher, Director of Technical Services
>>>>>>> eZuce, Inc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 300 Brickstone Square****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Suite 201****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andover, MA. 01810
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>>>>>>> M.207-956-0262
>>>>>>> @mpicher <http://twitter.com/mpicher>
>>>>>>> www.ezuce.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand
>>>>>>> binary and those who don't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>> Tony Graziano, Manager
>>>>>> Telephone: 434.984.8430
>>>>>> sip: [email protected]
>>>>>> Fax: 434.465.6833
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>> Linked-In Profile:
>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4
>>>>>> Ask about our Internet Fax services!
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>>>>>> Telephone: 434.984.8426
>>>>>> sip: 
>>>>>> [email protected].**net<[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Helpdesk Customers: 
>>>>>> http://myhelp.myitdepartment.**net<http://myhelp.myitdepartment.net>
>>>>>> Blog: http://blog.myitdepartment.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> sipx-users mailing list
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> sipx-users mailing list
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>>>> Telephone: 434.984.8426
>>>> sip: [email protected].**net<[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>> Helpdesk Customers: 
>>>> http://myhelp.myitdepartment.**net<http://myhelp.myitdepartment.net>
>>>> Blog: http://blog.myitdepartment.net
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> sipx-users mailing list
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Michael Picher, Director of Technical Services
>> eZuce, Inc.
>>
>> 300 Brickstone Square****
>>
>> Suite 201****
>>
>> Andover, MA. 01810
>> O.978-296-1005 X2015
>> M.207-956-0262
>> @mpicher <http://twitter.com/mpicher>
>> www.ezuce.com
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> and those who don't.
>>
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