does it happen to be a netgear for the far end firewall (client side)?

i've also seen this not disabled properly with dd-wrt.

Mike

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Roman Gelfand <[email protected]> wrote:

> I am at a loss, I thought I had mentioned in my second post of this trail
> that I have done this.
>
> Anyway, are there any other ideas? and yes, sip-helpers and alg are
> disabled. Just to test that it is not firewall, I opened up all ports in
> both directions.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Tony Graziano <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I was just showing him where the Nat traversal (media relay) was...
>>  On Mar 12, 2012 8:25 PM, "Michael Picher" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I know, but the pic showed it clearly checked.
>>> On Mar 12, 2012 7:51 PM, "Tony Graziano" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:47 PM, Michael Picher <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> if your server is not behind nat, uncheck the 'server behind nat'
>>>>
>>>> (this is what I sayeth to him already)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Tony Graziano <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Roman Gelfand 
>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually, I neglected to mention that...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1.  Snom are the local phones.  I use x-lite for the remote phone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2.  When I call from x-lite, as remote workder, and get to voicemail,
>>>>>>> there is sound both ways as I am able to save voicemail.  However,
>>>>>>> when a snom phone picks up, the snom phone picks up the sound but not
>>>>>>> x-lite.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I dont understand what you are trying to say here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps, I am missing a setting on snom?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What phones do you recommend?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW... NAT Traversal is set in internet calling.  Where do you set
>>>>>>> NAT
>>>>>>> Traversal in system?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Internet Calling
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - Internet 
>>>>>> Calling<https://10.255.252.64:8443/sipxconfig/dialplan/sbc/InternetCalling,$common$TabNavigation.$DirectLink_0.sdirect?sp=SinternetCalling&state:dialplan/sbc/InternetCalling=BrO0ABXcnAAAAAQEADiRjb21tb24kQm9yZGVyABBpbml0aWFsU2Vzc2lvbklkdAAMd25qNzJpeDY5cDNu>
>>>>>>    - NAT 
>>>>>> Traversal<https://10.255.252.64:8443/sipxconfig/dialplan/sbc/InternetCalling,$common$TabNavigation.$DirectLink_0.sdirect?sp=SnatTraversal&state:dialplan/sbc/InternetCalling=BrO0ABXcnAAAAAQEADiRjb21tb24kQm9yZGVyABBpbml0aWFsU2Vzc2lvbklkdAAMd25qNzJpeDY5cDNu>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    *Quick Links*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - Job 
>>>>>> Status<https://10.255.252.64:8443/sipxconfig/admin/JobStatusPage.html?state:dialplan/sbc/InternetCalling=BrO0ABXcnAAAAAQEADiRjb21tb24kQm9yZGVyABBpbml0aWFsU2Vzc2lvbklkdAAMd25qNzJpeDY5cDNu>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The NAT Traversal feature makes it possible to communicate with
>>>>>> remote users and endpoints that are behind near-end and far-end NATs. In
>>>>>> addition, it is possible to setup a multi-branch configuration over a
>>>>>> public network using standard firewalls.
>>>>>> Whenever it is detected that the two endpoints that are starting a
>>>>>> media session are separated by one or more NATs, the server will insert 
>>>>>> its
>>>>>> Media Relay into the media path. The NAT traversal feature supports full
>>>>>> cone, restricted cone, port restricted cone as well as symmetric NATs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In order to change the network topology (intranet domains and
>>>>>> subnets) please visit the Internet Calling page.
>>>>>>  Enable NAT Traversal  Enables NAT traversal capabilities in support
>>>>>> of remote workers and remote servers behind NAT
>>>>>> Server behind NAT Needs to be checked when the server is deployed
>>>>>> behind a NAT/Firewall.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Tony Graziano
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> > system, nat traversal, internet calling, nat traversal.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > i would ask other if snom supports moh and/or how it does.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Roman Gelfand <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> I am not sure I understand.  Does this mean, assuming everything
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> >> correctly configured, that the only problem I could have is due
>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>> >> phone?
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> When you say,  "should be set to use media relay (remote
>>>>>>> users=yes)",
>>>>>>> >> where is it?
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Thanks
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Tony Graziano
>>>>>>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> >> > the server has a public ip address, and hence is not behind nat.
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > the phones might also be behind a "different" network, and if
>>>>>>> so, should
>>>>>>> >> > be
>>>>>>> >> > set to use media relay (remote users=yes).
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > the snom phones MAY NOT support the ietf draft for moh
>>>>>>> internally, but
>>>>>>> >> > might
>>>>>>> >> > for sipx bridge if it is anchoring pstn calls (sorry, i dont
>>>>>>> touch snom
>>>>>>> >> > anymore due to interop issues).
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Roman Gelfand <
>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> The topology is as follows.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> 1. The sipx server has public ip address in /29 network.  It
>>>>>>> is behind
>>>>>>> >> >> transparent mode firewall.  The nat traversal is checked.  In
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> >> >> server NAT configuration, I specified this server ip address.
>>>>>>> >> >> 2. The phones (snom 370) are on a lan.  The network traffic to
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> >> >> from sipx server server are routed. This lan is included in
>>>>>>> sipx
>>>>>>> >> >> networks.  Hence, it is nonat.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> The local calls work fine and sip trunk calls work fine.  I
>>>>>>> just found
>>>>>>> >> >> out the remote workers are not working.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> I am not sure if this configuration works with sipx.  If it
>>>>>>> does, I
>>>>>>> >> >> will send you the trace.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> Thanks again
>>>>>>> >> >> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Tony Graziano
>>>>>>> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> >> >> > a call trace with a description of the call flow would do
>>>>>>> lots to
>>>>>>> >> >> > explain
>>>>>>> >> >> > why moh is not working.
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> > describe the elements involved (sbc, gateway, UA), etc.
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Roman Gelfand <
>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>> >> >> > wrote:
>>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> >> What should I be looking at if MOH is not working?
>>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> >> Thanks for the help.
>>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Tony Graziano
>>>>>>> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > Those are static messages that will always appear in the
>>>>>>> proxy
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > unfortunately. I think they can be safely ignored. I
>>>>>>> think they
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > appear
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > whether moh works or not also.
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > On Mar 12, 2012 9:44 AM, "Roman Gelfand" <
>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> I am getting consistantly the following messages in
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> sipXproxy.log.
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> 1. NatTraversalAgen[900_ntap]::handleOutputMessage
>>>>>>> failed to to
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> retrieve CallTracker to handle request
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> 2. SipXProxy:"SipUserAgent::dispatch received response
>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> transaction"
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> 3. SipXProxy:"HttpMessage::get[4] Receiving failed on
>>>>>>> persistent
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> connection on try 0"
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> Both remote workers and bridging works excecpt for MOH.
>>>>>>>  Are
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> these
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> messages related to MOH not working?
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> Can these messages be ignored?
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> sipx-users mailing list
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> [email protected]
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> List Archive:
>>>>>>> http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > Telephone: 434.984.8426
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > sip: [email protected]
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > Helpdesk Customers: http://myhelp.myitdepartment.net
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > Blog: http://blog.myitdepartment.net
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > sipx-users mailing list
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > [email protected]
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > List Archive:
>>>>>>> http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>>>>>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> >> >> >> sipx-users mailing list
>>>>>>> >> >> >> [email protected]
>>>>>>> >> >> >> List Archive:
>>>>>>> http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> > --
>>>>>>> >> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>> >> >> > Tony Graziano, Manager
>>>>>>> >> >> > Telephone: 434.984.8430
>>>>>>> >> >> > sip: [email protected]
>>>>>>> >> >> > Fax: 434.465.6833
>>>>>>> >> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>> >> >> > Linked-In Profile:
>>>>>>> >> >> > http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4
>>>>>>> >> >> > Ask about our Internet Fax services!
>>>>>>> >> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> > LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>>>>>>> >> >> > Telephone: 434.984.8426
>>>>>>> >> >> > sip: [email protected]
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> > Helpdesk Customers: http://myhelp.myitdepartment.net
>>>>>>> >> >> > Blog: http://blog.myitdepartment.net
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> > _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> >> >> > sipx-users mailing list
>>>>>>> >> >> > [email protected]
>>>>>>> >> >> > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>>>>>> >> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> >> >> sipx-users mailing list
>>>>>>> >> >> [email protected]
>>>>>>> >> >> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > --
>>>>>>> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>> >> > Tony Graziano, Manager
>>>>>>> >> > Telephone: 434.984.8430
>>>>>>> >> > sip: [email protected]
>>>>>>> >> > Fax: 434.465.6833
>>>>>>> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>> >> > Linked-In Profile:
>>>>>>> >> > http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4
>>>>>>> >> > Ask about our Internet Fax services!
>>>>>>> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>>>>>>> >> > Telephone: 434.984.8426
>>>>>>> >> > sip: [email protected]
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > Helpdesk Customers: http://myhelp.myitdepartment.net
>>>>>>> >> > Blog: http://blog.myitdepartment.net
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> >> > sipx-users mailing list
>>>>>>> >> > [email protected]
>>>>>>> >> > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> >> sipx-users mailing list
>>>>>>> >> [email protected]
>>>>>>> >> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>> > Tony Graziano, Manager
>>>>>>> > Telephone: 434.984.8430
>>>>>>> > sip: [email protected]
>>>>>>> > Fax: 434.465.6833
>>>>>>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>> > Linked-In Profile:
>>>>>>> > http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4
>>>>>>> > Ask about our Internet Fax services!
>>>>>>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>>>>>>> > Telephone: 434.984.8426
>>>>>>> > sip: [email protected]
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Helpdesk Customers: http://myhelp.myitdepartment.net
>>>>>>> > Blog: http://blog.myitdepartment.net
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> > sipx-users mailing list
>>>>>>> > [email protected]
>>>>>>> > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> sipx-users mailing list
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>> Tony Graziano, Manager
>>>>>> Telephone: 434.984.8430
>>>>>> sip: [email protected]
>>>>>> Fax: 434.465.6833
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>> Linked-In Profile:
>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4
>>>>>> Ask about our Internet Fax services!
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>>>>>> Telephone: 434.984.8426
>>>>>> sip: 
>>>>>> [email protected].**net<[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Helpdesk Customers: 
>>>>>> http://myhelp.myitdepartment.**net<http://myhelp.myitdepartment.net>
>>>>>> Blog: http://blog.myitdepartment.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> sipx-users mailing list
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Michael Picher, Director of Technical Services
>>>>> eZuce, Inc.
>>>>>
>>>>> 300 Brickstone Square****
>>>>>
>>>>> Suite 201****
>>>>>
>>>>> Andover, MA. 01810
>>>>> O.978-296-1005 X2015
>>>>> M.207-956-0262
>>>>> @mpicher <http://twitter.com/mpicher>
>>>>> www.ezuce.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary
>>>>> and those who don't.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> Tony Graziano, Manager
>>>> Telephone: 434.984.8430
>>>> sip: [email protected]
>>>> Fax: 434.465.6833
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> Linked-In Profile:
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4
>>>> Ask about our Internet Fax services!
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>>>> Telephone: 434.984.8426
>>>> sip: [email protected].**net<[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>> Helpdesk Customers: 
>>>> http://myhelp.myitdepartment.**net<http://myhelp.myitdepartment.net>
>>>> Blog: http://blog.myitdepartment.net
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> sipx-users mailing list
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sipx-users mailing list
>>> [email protected]
>>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>>
>>
>> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>> Telephone: 434.984.8426
>> sip: [email protected].**net<[email protected]>
>>
>> Helpdesk Customers: 
>> http://myhelp.myitdepartment.**net<http://myhelp.myitdepartment.net>
>> Blog: http://blog.myitdepartment.net
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sipx-users mailing list
>> [email protected]
>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/
>>
>
>
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