On 16 May 2009, at 3:23 PM, Olivier Verdier wrote:
2009/5/16 Christiaan Hofman <[email protected]>
On 16 May 2009, at 7:39 AM, Olivier Verdier wrote:
It makes complete sense to me to switch apps during presentations.
I can switch to VLC to show a movie, or to the Terminal to make a
demo. This is vital for me.
Apple's own idea of presentation mode is really unsatisfactory
(they mostly think about people showing their photos to their
friends, I suppose), and that is why I use skim in the first place.
Would you consider adding a preference (possibly a hidden one) to
allow the switching to other apps in presentation mode?
No
I am not completely illiterate in cocoa programming so I might help
if you point me to the right direction (and agree with such a
change).
Thank you!
== Olivier
I already said that this discussion is really irrelevant, because it
cannot be reasonably done. Switching apps in presentation modes
gives unacceptable problems. Period.
I see. Would you mind sharing your knowledge about why it cannot be
reasonably done? And what precisely were the problems caused by
switching apps before version 1.2.2? I have never experienced any
problem at all with skim and app switching myself...
I said so already: the presentation window covers other windows
because it's at a higher level, also when it's not active. If you
haven't seen that, it's just a coincidence.
For the moment I will just try to compile a pre-1.2.2 version and
use that instead of the last version. I really cannot use Skim in
its present state for my teaching.
Thank you,
== Olivier
For teaching you may choose to use the Full Screen mode as well, which
does allow app and window switching. I know others are doing that.
It's one reason why Skim has two different full screen modes in the
first place. You could easily modify the (default) view settings to
match the presentation mode more closely.
Christiaan
Christiaan
2009/5/12 Christiaan Hofman <[email protected]>
On 12 May 2009, at 9:56 AM, Olivier Verdier wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am often in a situation where I want to switch app while doing a
> presentation with Skim (for instance switch to the terminal to
run a
> demo).
>
> This was possible a couple of versions ago, but is not possible
> anymore.
>
> Does anybody know how to fix this? Do you know which version
removed
> this feature (so I can switch back to an older version if
necessary).
>
> Thank you!!
>
> regards,
> == Olivier
It was deliberately disabled in the last release (1.2.2) because it
led to unacceptable situations, like complete loss of control of
anything you see. Unfortunately Apple does not give us sufficient
control to make app switching in presentation mode feasible. Also, it
really makes no sense to switch apps during a presentation mode, I
consider that hackish. Also Apple generally disables app switching
and
window switching in presentation modes.
Christiaan
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