On 18 May 2009, at 8:13 AM, Olivier Verdier wrote:
Thanks to you all for all the answers. I think I will use the full screen mode instead of presentation mode, if it works well with a projector (I always use the dual screen mode, not the mirror mode).
Display works the same in both modes, so that shouldn't be a problem. Only functionality and window level is different.
I also like the sidebars popping in, it's a great idea indeed (and I agree with James, it would be even better if they were not visible, I suppose).
Won't happen. Remember, lots of users don't even discover these side panels now when they're always partially visible.
There is however one little snag with this approach: when I switch to another app and then back to skim, the document in presentation mode appears in second position, i.e., behind another document. I suppose I could get around that by having only my slides open in skim though.Thank you! Cheers == Olivier
We can't control this, I don't know why Apple does this. And this is precisely why you can't switch apps in Presentation mode. Because in that case you wouldn't even see the window that's currently active, because the (inactive) Presentation window will cover it.
Christiaan
2009/5/16 Ivan Werning <[email protected]> On May 16, 2009, at 9:23 AM, Olivier Verdier wrote: >> > > I already said that this discussion is really irrelevant, because it > cannot be reasonably done. Switching apps in presentation modes > gives unacceptable problems. Period. > > > I see. Would you mind sharing your knowledge about why it cannot be > reasonably done? And what precisely were the problems caused by > switching apps before version 1.2.2? I have never experienced any > problem at all with skim and app switching myself... > > For the moment I will just try to compile a pre-1.2.2 version and > use that instead of the last version. I really cannot use Skim in > its present state for my teaching. > > Thank you, > > == Olivier > > > Olivier, just a suggestion for you that works for me: You may just want to try a customized Full Screen mode instead of Presentation mode. I use Full Screen mode instead of presentation mode for all my presentations. In my opinion it has a number of advantages and only some tiny drawbacks: -you can switch applications; a quick Expose is also wonderful from this mode - you have much more flexibility in terms of page layout (such as setting things to Continuous) -you can invoke tools (select, notes etc.) if you want them (easy to prevent them too) -you can sneak peak at your menu bar by .taking the cursor up, to check time, battery life, etc. -you can change the color of the background (to a dark black, as in presentation mode) in the preferences. -I find navigation more intuitive, since it is the same as in your regular use. Indeed, all key bindings work here. The only drawback I see is that the sidebars panels are there. But if you reduce them, you can make them small and prevent them from swinging open. That's what I do. They look like a little frame on the side and nobody notices them. I guess another advantage of Presentation mode, over Full Screen, is precisely that it is fool proofed: you can't do much there, so not much can go wrong either. But that seems more relevant for a situation where you lend your computer to someone else for a presentation than for an experienced user with their own setup. So this advantage is completely irrelevant for me. The gains outweight the losses in my view. So for a long time I have used Full Screen mode to present at seminars and in lectures. Hope this helps. Cheers -Ivan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects _______________________________________________ Skim-app-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/skim-app-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects_______________________________________________ Skim-app-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/skim-app-users
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