On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Christiaan Hofman <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> On 19 May 2009, at 12:06 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>
> There is however one little snag with this approach: when I switch to
>>>> another app and then back to skim, the document in presentation mode
>>>> appears in second position, i.e., behind another document. I suppose I
>>>> could get around that by having only my slides open in skim though.
>>>>
>>>
>>> We can't control this, I don't know why Apple does this. And this is
>>> precisely why you can't switch apps in Presentation mode. Because in
>>> that case you wouldn't even see the window that's currently active,
>>> because the (inactive) Presentation window will cover it.
>>>
>>
>> For what it's worth, MacVim.app (http://code.google.com/p/macvim/) has a
>> fullscreen mode in which one can use command-tab to switch apps without
>> difficulty. Whatever windows the switched-to app uses appear in front of
>> MacVim's, and the menubar returns to visibility as well. If multiple MacVim
>> windows were open (say, one fullscreen and the other not), they behave as
>> they should. Obviously MacVim doesn't display pdf presentations, but the
>> point is just that there do exist Mac apps that mix fullscreen with
>> app-switching in a non-buggy way. I know nothing about programming, though,
>> so I have no idea whether MacVim is engaged in hackery. But the example of
>> MacVim shows that Apple is not making proper fullscreen behavior coupled
>> with app-switching a general impossibility.
>>
>> -epicurus
>>
>
> I don't know why, but I do know that there's no function available to
> control which window will become main after switching to an app. Moreover,
> allowing other windows to move in front of other windows comes at a cost: it
> may just leave other windows in front of your full screen presentation
> without any way to move them out of the way, which I'm sure you generally
> won't want to have in a presentation. Skim is designed with general users in
> mind, not a few specific users that have some special requests.
>
> Christiaan
>
>
BTW, the MacVim fullscreen is functionally more equivalent to Skim's
FullScreen mode rather than the Presentation mode. And Skim's Full Screen
mode behaves roughly the same way. That's what makes all the difference of
doing things differently. That's all by design. Moreover, I don't think
MacVim shows the critical part where switching when there's both a fulscreen
and normal window "does the right thing", because in fact there may not even
be a "right thing". And I'm pretty sure it is not always doing the right
thing according to some users. In other words: it remains buggy, you juts
may not have hit it in MacVim.
Christiaan
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