Actually, you're right, because JAWS and the scripts usually use MSAA to get chat and mood text nowadays, and those will contain the text representations, not the graphics. The difference will only occur if you use the JAWS cursor or if JAWS has to rely on screen text for some reason.
Sorry, I should have realized this earlier. This is what happens when I fire off a quick reply while working on something else I guess. :) On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 05:34:53PM +0200, Kostadin Kolev wrote: > Hello, > > As far as I can test, there is no difference if the graphical emoticons > are turned on or off. My version of Skype (v3.8) is set to bulgarian > language. When I use the translated in bulgarian "skype.jdf" file, JAWS > speaks the emoticons in bulgarian, as they are written in the dictionary > file (disregard of the tooltip info for the icons in the chat window). > When I tested the dictionary from Doug's site, JAWS speaks the emoticons > as they are described in that file. So, I guess that no matter if > emoticons are turned on or off, the text and punctuation symbols > representing those icons are displayed "internally" and JAWS can read > them without problems. And that applies to mood messages too. Maybe for > that to work properly, the accessibility options in Skype should be > turned on, as mine are. > > > Best wishes! > Kostadin Kolev > > Doug Lee wrote: >> JAWS should translate the text representations, such as a colon and a >> right paren, into names, if you have the dictionary loaded, regardless >> of whether you have Skype set to use graphical emoticons. However, my >> understanding is that if you have graphical emoticons enabled in >> Skype, the graphics will replace the text representations in most >> places, thus effectively preventing the dictionary of names from being >> used. I have not tested this to see just where the graphics appear >> versus where you still see text; I'll leave that to someone who wants >> to mess with it. :-) >> >> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 03:57:48PM +0200, Kostadin Kolev wrote: >>> Hello, Doug, >>> >>> Are you saying that if graphical emoticons are turned on, JAWS can't >>> speak their text representation? Mine are turned on and JAWS speaks >>> the text representation correctly, even with the dictionary file >>> from your site. I actually use another dictionary file, witch was >>> translated in bulgarian. It's not as complete as that provided by >>> Gordan, but it serves us bulgarian users very well. >>> >>> P.S.: Sorry for misspelling your name in my previous letter. >>> >>> Best wishes! >>> Kostadin Kolev >>> >>> Doug Lee wrote: >>>> Unchecking the emoticon option makes Skype show text strings instead >>>> of graphical icons for emoticons in chat and mood text. The >>>> dictionary file Gordan put together relies on those text strings; you >>>> can't so easily, and without system dependencies, create a system for >>>> translating the graphical icons. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 02:43:35PM +0200, Kostadin Kolev wrote: >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> Gianfranco, yes, those terms mean the same thing. By default they >>>>> are checked. I don't know if we should uncheck them or not. Mine >>>>> are checked and also the option below them "and animate them" is >>>>> checked. I don't recall to have some problems with those 2 >>>>> options checked. But on Duck's site, it says to uncheck them for >>>>> better compatibility with JAWS. >>>>> Duck, why do we have to uncheck them? What is the difference if >>>>> we do and if we don't? >>>>> >>>>> P.S.: The right word is "emoticons" and not "emonicons", just for clarity. >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes! >>>>> Kostadin Kolev >>>>> >>>>> Gianfranco Di Cosmo wrote: >>>>>> Question for clerification: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The graphics emonicons, is it also called, animated emonicons? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> In the options it says, animated emonicons checked. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Do we uncheck it? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >>>>>> latest version of skype go to >>>>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>>>>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>>>>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>>>>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>>>>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>>>>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >>>>> latest version of skype go to >>>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>>>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>>>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>>>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>>>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>>>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >>> latest version of skype go to >>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >> > > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the > latest version of skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > To access tutorials and other goodies go to > http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > Skypeenglish at emissives.com > http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com -- Doug Lee dgl at dlee.org http://www.dlee.org SSB BART Group doug.lee at ssbbartgroup.com http://www.ssbbartgroup.com "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." -Abraham Lincoln
