HI! Could someone tell me if I'm on the right track with this dictionary?using jaws 10, skype 3.8 and revision 653 I put the dictionary file into:
C:\programmefiles\freedomscientific \jajjaws runtime\settings\enu is this the correct folder? if so I'm having no luck with the dictionary file, all the emoticons just keep giving a variety of punctuation marks without any text description. Am I doing something wrong! Best wishes Alistair ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <[email protected]> To: "screen access software with skype" <skypeenglish at emissives.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Dictionary file > Actually, you're right, because JAWS and the scripts usually use MSAA > to get chat and mood text nowadays, and those will contain the text > representations, not the graphics. The difference will only occur if > you use the JAWS cursor or if JAWS has to rely on screen text for some > reason. > > Sorry, I should have realized this earlier. This is what happens when > I fire off a quick reply while working on something else I guess. :) > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 05:34:53PM +0200, Kostadin Kolev wrote: >> Hello, >> >> As far as I can test, there is no difference if the graphical emoticons >> are turned on or off. My version of Skype (v3.8) is set to bulgarian >> language. When I use the translated in bulgarian "skype.jdf" file, JAWS >> speaks the emoticons in bulgarian, as they are written in the dictionary >> file (disregard of the tooltip info for the icons in the chat window). >> When I tested the dictionary from Doug's site, JAWS speaks the emoticons >> as they are described in that file. So, I guess that no matter if >> emoticons are turned on or off, the text and punctuation symbols >> representing those icons are displayed "internally" and JAWS can read >> them without problems. And that applies to mood messages too. Maybe for >> that to work properly, the accessibility options in Skype should be >> turned on, as mine are. >> >> >> Best wishes! >> Kostadin Kolev >> >> Doug Lee wrote: >>> JAWS should translate the text representations, such as a colon and a >>> right paren, into names, if you have the dictionary loaded, regardless >>> of whether you have Skype set to use graphical emoticons. However, my >>> understanding is that if you have graphical emoticons enabled in >>> Skype, the graphics will replace the text representations in most >>> places, thus effectively preventing the dictionary of names from being >>> used. I have not tested this to see just where the graphics appear >>> versus where you still see text; I'll leave that to someone who wants >>> to mess with it. :-) >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 03:57:48PM +0200, Kostadin Kolev wrote: >>>> Hello, Doug, >>>> >>>> Are you saying that if graphical emoticons are turned on, JAWS can't >>>> speak their text representation? Mine are turned on and JAWS speaks >>>> the text representation correctly, even with the dictionary file >>>> from your site. I actually use another dictionary file, witch was >>>> translated in bulgarian. It's not as complete as that provided by >>>> Gordan, but it serves us bulgarian users very well. >>>> >>>> P.S.: Sorry for misspelling your name in my previous letter. >>>> >>>> Best wishes! >>>> Kostadin Kolev >>>> >>>> Doug Lee wrote: >>>>> Unchecking the emoticon option makes Skype show text strings instead >>>>> of graphical icons for emoticons in chat and mood text. The >>>>> dictionary file Gordan put together relies on those text strings; you >>>>> can't so easily, and without system dependencies, create a system for >>>>> translating the graphical icons. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 02:43:35PM +0200, Kostadin Kolev wrote: >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> Gianfranco, yes, those terms mean the same thing. By default they >>>>>> are checked. I don't know if we should uncheck them or not. Mine >>>>>> are checked and also the option below them "and animate them" is >>>>>> checked. I don't recall to have some problems with those 2 >>>>>> options checked. But on Duck's site, it says to uncheck them for >>>>>> better compatibility with JAWS. >>>>>> Duck, why do we have to uncheck them? What is the difference if >>>>>> we do and if we don't? >>>>>> >>>>>> P.S.: The right word is "emoticons" and not "emonicons", just for >>>>>> clarity. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best wishes! >>>>>> Kostadin Kolev >>>>>> >>>>>> Gianfranco Di Cosmo wrote: >>>>>>> Question for clerification: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The graphics emonicons, is it also called, animated emonicons? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In the options it says, animated emonicons checked. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do we uncheck it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for >>>>>>> the latest version of skype go to >>>>>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>>>>>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>>>>>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>>>>>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>>>>>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>>>>>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for >>>>>> the latest version of skype go to >>>>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>>>>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>>>>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>>>>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>>>>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>>>>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for >>>> the latest version of skype go to >>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>> >> >> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >> latest version of skype go to >> http://www.dlee.org/skype >> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >> thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skypeenglish mailing list >> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > > -- > Doug Lee dgl at dlee.org http://www.dlee.org > SSB BART Group doug.lee at ssbbartgroup.com > http://www.ssbbartgroup.com > "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's > character, give him power." -Abraham Lincoln > > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the > latest version of skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > To access tutorials and other goodies go to > http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > Skypeenglish at emissives.com > http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.14/1920 - Release Date: > 27/01/2009 18:15 > >
