Hi gordon,

thanks for that, all now done!

Alistair

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gordan Radic" <[email protected]>
To: "screen access software with skype" <skypeenglish at emissives.com>
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Dictionary file


> Hi!
> No, it's not.
> Run Start - Programs - Jaws - Explore Jaws - Explore my settings and paste 
> it here. That's totally different folder from which you tried to paste 
> file into.
> If you have more than one Jaws versions, pay attention to version number.
>
>
> S postovanjem
>
> Gordan Radic
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ali" <alistair.kelly at ntlworld.com>
> To: "screen access software with skype" <skypeenglish at emissives.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 9:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Dictionary file
>
>
>> HI!
>>
>> Could someone tell me if I'm on the right track with this 
>> dictionary?using jaws 10, skype 3.8 and revision 653 I put the dictionary 
>> file into:
>>
>> C:\programmefiles\freedomscientific \jajjaws runtime\settings\enu
>>
>> is this the correct folder? if so I'm having no luck with the dictionary 
>> file, all the emoticons just keep giving a variety of punctuation marks 
>> without any text description. Am I doing something wrong!
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Alistair
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Doug Lee" <dgl at dlee.org>
>> To: "screen access software with skype" <skypeenglish at emissives.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 4:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Dictionary file
>>
>>
>>> Actually, you're right, because JAWS and the scripts usually use MSAA
>>> to get chat and mood text nowadays, and those will contain the text
>>> representations, not the graphics.  The difference will only occur if
>>> you use the JAWS cursor or if JAWS has to rely on screen text for some
>>> reason.
>>>
>>> Sorry, I should have realized this earlier.  This is what happens when
>>> I fire off a quick reply while working on something else I guess. :)
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 05:34:53PM +0200, Kostadin Kolev wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> As far as I can test, there is no difference if the graphical emoticons
>>>> are turned on or off. My version of Skype (v3.8) is set to bulgarian
>>>> language. When I use the translated in bulgarian "skype.jdf" file, JAWS
>>>> speaks the emoticons in bulgarian, as they are written in the 
>>>> dictionary
>>>> file (disregard of the tooltip info for the icons in the chat window).
>>>> When I tested the dictionary from Doug's site, JAWS speaks the 
>>>> emoticons
>>>> as they are described in that file. So, I guess that no matter if
>>>> emoticons are turned on or off, the text and punctuation symbols
>>>> representing those icons are displayed "internally" and JAWS can read
>>>> them without problems. And that applies to mood messages too. Maybe for
>>>> that to work properly, the accessibility options in Skype should be
>>>> turned on, as mine are.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes!
>>>> Kostadin Kolev
>>>>
>>>> Doug Lee wrote:
>>>>> JAWS should translate the text representations, such as a colon and a
>>>>> right paren, into names, if you have the dictionary loaded, regardless
>>>>> of whether you have Skype set to use graphical emoticons.  However, my
>>>>> understanding is that if you have graphical emoticons enabled in
>>>>> Skype, the graphics will replace the text representations in most
>>>>> places, thus effectively preventing the dictionary of names from being
>>>>> used.  I have not tested this to see just where the graphics appear
>>>>> versus where you still see text; I'll leave that to someone who wants
>>>>> to mess with it. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 03:57:48PM +0200, Kostadin Kolev wrote:
>>>>>> Hello, Doug,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you saying that if graphical emoticons are turned on, JAWS can't
>>>>>> speak their text representation? Mine are turned on and JAWS speaks
>>>>>> the  text representation correctly, even with the dictionary file
>>>>>> from your  site. I actually use another dictionary file, witch was
>>>>>> translated in  bulgarian. It's not as complete  as that provided by
>>>>>> Gordan, but it  serves us bulgarian users very well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P.S.: Sorry for misspelling your name in my previous letter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best wishes!
>>>>>> Kostadin Kolev
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doug Lee wrote:
>>>>>>> Unchecking the emoticon option makes Skype show text strings instead
>>>>>>> of graphical icons for emoticons in chat and mood text.  The
>>>>>>> dictionary file Gordan put together relies on those text strings; 
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> can't so easily, and without system dependencies, create a system 
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> translating the graphical icons.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 02:43:35PM +0200, Kostadin Kolev wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gianfranco, yes, those terms mean the same thing. By default they
>>>>>>>> are  checked. I don't know if we should uncheck them or not. Mine
>>>>>>>> are checked  and also the option below them "and animate them" is
>>>>>>>> checked. I don't  recall to have some problems with those 2
>>>>>>>> options checked. But on Duck's  site, it says to uncheck them for
>>>>>>>> better compatibility with JAWS.
>>>>>>>> Duck, why do we have to uncheck them? What is the difference if
>>>>>>>> we do  and if we don't?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> P.S.: The right word is "emoticons" and not "emonicons", just for 
>>>>>>>> clarity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best wishes!
>>>>>>>> Kostadin Kolev
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gianfranco Di Cosmo wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Question for clerification:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The graphics emonicons, is it also called, animated emonicons?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In the options it says, animated emonicons checked.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do we uncheck it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts 
>>>>>>>>> for the latest version of skype go to
>>>>>>>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype
>>>>>>>>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to
>>>>>>>>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
>>>>>>>>> thanks and have a wonderful day.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts 
>>>>>>>> for the latest version of skype go to
>>>>>>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype
>>>>>>>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to
>>>>>>>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
>>>>>>>> thanks and have a wonderful day.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> the latest version of skype go to
>>>>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype
>>>>>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to
>>>>>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
>>>>>> thanks and have a wonderful day.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts for 
>>>> the latest version of skype go to
>>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype
>>>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to
>>>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
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>>>>
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>>
>>
>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts for the 
>> latest version of skype go to
>> http://www.dlee.org/skype
>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to
>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
>> thanks and have a wonderful day.
>>
>>
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>
> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts for the 
> latest version of skype go to
> http://www.dlee.org/skype
> To access tutorials and other goodies go to
> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
> thanks and have a wonderful day.
>
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