Hi Henry! I hope that I've put the discussion on, and, about SLUG to rest. My newbie method of dealing with the maze of possibilities and associated problems, nay opportunities, is to discover: "where I'm at first", (not far) "what is possible for me", (considering age and health) "what I can do" rather than, "what I ought do". This trick I learned from Immanual Kant (1724 - 1804) see attachment for my favourite lists. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- The general technique I use is taken from Prolog and it is "Breadth First Searching" (There is a GNU prolog and a Smalltalk). I am hoping that others out there might help me gather enough info to create a Knowledge Base just to be able to keep track of all the leading "or misleading" distributions. That has to go toward making it easier for " the silly old blokes like me". If anyone has some older castaway Linux cd's maybe you could let me have them: that way maybe, I can put a bit back into SLUG for all the help it has provided me, FOC. I think this is what Linus Torwald might have really wanted: an integrated approach, rather than a hacking explosion (bless their little hacking hearts). Just as a start: maybe some sort of X - Y TRUTH table (spreadsheet would help) in windows [which every man, woman(man-with-a-womb) , with his dog and a computer, already has], of what to expect from the cd on standard proprietory hardware (now going to the Simms metal shredder) and, of course, something the total mindless newbie can do by, only pressing the return key. That will at least, begin the "design" of an Expert System. The world expects Auzzies do it smarter? (what the heck am I doing then!) Flame me please but, please, please don't giggle.
This is what I've got right now: IBM Aptiva 200, 96k memory, 1.7 gig hd, SMC 1211TX cable modem, ISP is telstra Broadband Cable. Win95c on 6.4 gig hda, Linux boot, root, and swap on 1.7 gig hdb. Grade *** grasshopper niewbie (according to Linuxnewbies.org). Observations so far: Cable is better supported in later versions and StarOffice is tricky owing to resistance to non GNU quasi proprietory integrated solution (IDE's) like StarOffice, Visual Works Smalltalk etc. Those who like these solutions usually get up the nose of the hacker-lobby and are ignored. I'm surprised that Apache and even Linux itself made it. ============================================================================ == Distribution here >>>>is >>>>> a list of features like: what a newnie can expect blah blah ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- Caldera CBT OpenLinux 2cd >> I forget what is doesnt do for me (installed it a month ago) LinuxCentral RH7.1 2cd, RH7.2 3cd StarOffice 5.2 (official) on loan from a SLUGer, no support >>Can't read CDROM available to me. RH 7.3 (offical) purchased but holding off calling in my 30 free support until I'm competant enought to get full value. Slackware For Dummies book with 2cd's 7.0 I think. >>> I forget about this one too LinuxCentral Mandrake 8.0 2cd LinuxCentral Slackware 8.0 3cd >>>balkes on ethenet InfoMagic 6cd (very old), 1) Red Hat 5.2 binaries etc, 2)SuSE 5.3 binaries & source. 3)Debian 2.0 binaries etc 4)Slackware 3.6 binaries etc, 5)Debian 2.0 Sources, 6)Red Hat 5.2 SRPMS etc ============================================================================ ==== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Walsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "henry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Graeme Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [SLUG] Simple Zipslack/StarOffice Install > Thanks henry! > Just having someone to talk to (at maybe), goes long way to solving a > problem (a problem shared is a problem solved). The fact that you have > tried, in a language that is not your mother tongue, is good medicine for > me, trying to find the protocol is hard. > The original message was not an attack on SLUG by the way and, the reference > to > > http://www.linuxnewbie.org/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=4&t > has no other purpose than to reflect on the use of such artifacts like a > newbie-to-newbie playground "without" expert supervision. I was not > altogether correct in that observation. > Fortunately I received some very usefull info. from a person called > "TheGimp" which went a long way toward helping me shortcut my way to the > front of the queue (geriatrics like me don't have a lot of time to spare, or > energy too, for that matter). The downside is, the helper required private > conversation, thus his advice to me was not available to the general newbie > population on that forum. > I am at the moment "multitasking" every "popular" Linux distribution I can, > afford to, get my hands on, so as to avoid a "convenient", "fastfood" > solution. I am trying to "know" Linux as a CLASS of IDE, not as an INSTANCE. > Why? Because I have other than "hacking", or "geek" or "nurd" interest in > it: Linux is merely a means to and end, not the end in itself. > So far I have installed at least once, one offering what they indeed > promise; freedom. > I mean freedon from 30 years of mind numbing code hacking. > NO OFFENCE INTENDED, so please audience don't flame me (none from Oz yet). > Caldera CBT OpenLinux 2cd > LinuxCentral RH7.1 2cd, > RH7.2 3cd StarOffice 5.2 (official) on loan from a SLUGer, no support > available to me. > RH 7.3 (offical) purchased but holding off calling in my 30 free support > until I'm competant enought to get full value. > Slackware For Dummies book with 2cd's 7.0 I think. > LinuxCentral Mandrake 8.0 2cd > LinuxCentral Slackware 8.0 3cd > InfoMagic 6cd (very old), > 1) Red Hat 5.2 binaries etc, > 2)SuSE 5.3 binaries & source. > 3)Debian 2.0 binaries etc > 4)Slackware 3.6 binaries etc, > 5)Debian 2.0 Sources, > 6)Red Hat 5.2 SRPMS etc > > Somehow I will get to understand how it all comes together and then get back > to my prefered IDE VisualWorks Smalltalk/Jun with (LISP/PROLOG) > Thanks again Henry for your comments I will take it all in and get back to > you sometime > Regards to you and all the hard working SLUGers out there in "wonderland". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "henry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 11:42 AM > Subject: Re: [SLUG] Simple Zipslack/StarOffice Install > > > > Dear jwalsh: > > > > First, I have got lots of help from SLUG,so I am sure that you go to a > right > > place. > > Second , I do not completely understand your problem Cause my English is > not > > so good. > > It's supposed that "cannot open shared object file: no such file or > > directory" is your problem. > > > > The self-extracted machine-code( *.bin) is not a classic compressed-file > of > > Linux , > > (From my experience) It is used for the following cases : > > a. The author does not wish to put his code in public . > > b. The author is not sure your Linux-enviroment(for example : not sure > what > > shared lib your computer has) > > so he compile & link to a big binary-package for you. > > > > But the error msg is too simple (it do not list what the shared lib is ) . > > or , you will get lots of help from our list. > > > > Hope it helps ! > > Henry > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 7:56 PM > > Subject: [SLUG] Simple Zipslack/StarOffice Install > > > > > > > > > > From: justinewbie > > > > > > Is this list all about newbie grasshopper (I'm a 3 star)leading > > grasshopper? blind leading the blind, or am I just displaying a very bad > > attitude? > > > I really don't know what to make of it. > > > I was advised by a peter on the Yahoo.groups.com Slackwarelinux list to > > try this site. > > > I have appealed and even visited SLUG before and raised my interested in > > Slackware but, was met with a loud giggling. Do the members of SLUG really > > know something that I don't know and really should. > > > I would be extremely gratefull if some one would be so good as to tell > me. > > > > > > I thought you might be interested in reading this web page: > > > > > > > > > http://www.linuxnewbie.org/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=4&t > > =016624 > > > > > > > > > > >
--- Begin Message ------ End Message ---
