Hello people

Yeah I use Mandrake of and on and RPM  does suck but wait there are
alternatives you can try urpmi, bit like apt-get meets rpm but also
there is an apt-get package for Mandrake, and a group that have a ftp
server setup for Mandrake apt-get  #--read quote from newsletter.

Website News
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PCLinuxOnline.com is an independent website that offers software 
for Mandrake Linux. PCLinuxOnline recently ported the 'Conectiva 
Synaptic Software Manager' to Mandrake 8.2. Additionally, they maintain 
an 'apt-get repository' of Mandrake 8.2 software, security updates, 
some RPMs from Mandrake 'unsupported', and Texstar's famous RPMs.
http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2808

Also, see their weekly 'RPM roundup' of Mandrake 8.2 packages.
http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2822


Ive used the Mandrake apt-get option to update to gcc 3.2 worked fine
accept for 3 broken links (took me about 1 minute to fix that).
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On Fri, 2002-08-02 at 15:29, James Gregory wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Aug 2002, Chris Barnes wrote:
> 
> > After hearing alot of people flame the rpm system I have finally decided
> > that they were right for doing so. I have had endless problems with the rpm
> > system on my mandrake system.
> 
> because what we really need is more flaming.
> 
> >
> > I was simply trying to update FreeType from 1.3 to 2.0 fso that my wine
> > installation would stop complaining. so I decided to remove FreeType 1.3
> > because it wouldn't upgrade to 2.0...but to do that i had to remove a heap
> > of other dependnecies like php-gd, ghostscript, libSDL, fonts-ttf, VFlib,
> > XFre86-libs.
> 
> Ok. You *don't* and *can't* upgrade from 1.3 to 2.0. They're different
> libraries with different APIs. RPM was quite right in saying that you'd
> break all that stuff if you uninstalled 1.3.
> 
> This is why they have different package names. freetype and freetype2. If
> they had the same package name it would let you do the upgrade, having
> different package names allows you to install them in parallel.
> 
> you'll notice that debian has a similar convention (though just looking
> through "apt-cache search freetype" on our token debian computer here seems
> to show a slightly counter-intuitive variant in this case)
> 
> >
> > to uninstall those I had to also uninstall a heap of their dependencies as
> > well. anyway i've been at it for an hour and a half straight. I've had 5
> > errors saying "db3 error(-30985) from db->verify: DB_VERIFY_BAD: Database
> > verification failed"
> 
> that sounds like a problem with your setup. Not rpm.
> 
> Have you tried rpm --rebuilddb?
> 
> See, I've managed to destroy debian package databases, the SunOS package
> system (though I never learnt enough about it to know if it had a package
> database or not), RPM and even systems without package managers.
> 
> I normally manage to do this by somehow misusing the system.
> 
> Last time I managed to do that I killed rpm rather forcefully while it was
> trying to stat a broken NFS mount. The operating system stopped it, RPM had
> no way to know what was happening. Anyway, rpm --rebuilddb did a reasonable
> job of picking up the pieces afterwards.
> 
> RPM is just a convenient wrapper for installing programs. It's more or less
> equivalent to dpkg. It's not a complete solution for software management -
> that's the job of other software which normally ships with linux distros
> these days.
> 
> >
> > the rpm system is just a mess. I couldn't find any front end which could
> > simplify the removal of all these dependencies...probably because there were
> > so many branching off others so its all being done by hand.
> 
> rpmdrake
> 
> drakconf
> 
> urpmi freetype2
> 
> >
> > I wouldn't be supprised if my system fails to work properly afterwards.
> 
> Either would I. Considering the amount of stuff you've uninstalled I'd
> suggest you use an automatic dependancy resolving program to recover or it
> could take some time.
> 
> HTH
> 
> James.
> 
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