Not that I particularly need anything quick, I ended up going for the
boot into Linux then use Mac-on-Linux for any OSX needs.  Doesn't solve
the ipod connection, but OSX under MOL is more responsive than X on OSX
for me.  Using a G4 powerbook.  Main gripe is lack of audio input (what
the hell were they thinking?) but as it's a work machine I'm not really
complaining...

Denis

On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 12:09:47AM +1000, Crossfire wrote:
> Adam Hewitt was once rumoured to have said:
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > I am about to purchase an Apple iBook and I have been having a quick
> > look around at the posibility of using Aqua with X11 and be able to run
> > linux programs. I know that there is the fink project which looks
> > awesome, and I believe that you have to install fink, XDarwin and either
> > OroborosX or Apples X11 and you can then use the Aqua window manager and
> > be able to use "Mac OSX" and have all the apps installed by fink look
> > and feel like OSX apps.
> > 
> > My question is which is the better - OroborosX or Apples X11?? Are there
> > any other versions of X that I am missing?? Am I completely on the wrong
> > track??
> 
> I've been using Apple's X11 implementation.  Other than a few annoying `bugs' 
> if you're using strange keyboards (like a real JIS keyboard), its actaully 
> been pretty good.
> 
> I didn't need to install oroborusx or xdarwin - I presume they're just other
> X servers for OS X.
> 
> As for Look and Feel, Apple's X11 only covers windows decorations (ie: 
> Quartz/Aqua act as the Window manager), its still up to the X11 application
> itself how it wants to render its controls.
> 
> I typically use X11 whenever I'm writing un*x code since it means I can
> use an X11 version of emacs and it'll behave like it does on every other
> X11 platform I use emacs on.
> 
> As for performance, it seems adequate - I'm using a poor old G3 350 with a
> about 320MBs of RAM and its performacne seems no different from the rest of 
> OS X. :)
> 
> YMMV.
> 
> C.
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