> > wading in to the quagmire that isgroupwareat the moment and wondered
> > what experiences might be out there pls.
> > Would prefer to use dovecot over cyrus as cyrus apprently doesn't do
> > maildir.
> ...and you care because?  The Cyrus spool has some performance
> advantages over Maildir, and is otherwise indistinguishable within the
> confines of the IMAP protocol.

Agree,  Cyrus' 'sealed' mail store is a feature, not a flaw.  Cyrus
also provides delayed expunge, SIEVE, and per-folder expiring of
messages.  These are incredible useful in corporate environments as
without them it is pretty hard to have a reasonably enforceable data-
retention policy (a requirement in just about every modern country).

> If you want direct access to the spool without going through the IMAP or
> POP server you should specify that, because mostgroupwaresolutions[1]
> don't allow that.

Right, for good reason.

> OpenGroupware was technically very good when I reviewed it some time
> ago, but I have not used it in production or looked at it in several
> years.

I'm an OpenGroupware developer, so my opinion is obvious.  We are
currently working on making sure CalDAV (Sunbird) support is working
smoothly.  And a new [commercial] Outlook connector is under
development (pre-release soon) for any server that supports GroupDAV.

> Building your own solution out of disparate parts /sounds/ easy, but it
> isn't.  The reason plenty of people pay the big bucks is that getting
> all the components to play nicely is a lot of work.

It *really* isn't.  Things like calendering are *superficially* simple
but as you get into them become really complicated.  And supporting
the various clients - Ugh!!!

> Footnotes:
> [1]  As opposed to purely mail servers, since "groupware" traditionally
>      includes at least a calendar and address book.

Actually, my definition is much more specific, but anyway... )

> [2]  Commercial, sorry.
> [3]  Semi-commercial, sorry.

Yep.  It is irritating to those of us who work on really Open Source
groupware servers to have products like Zimbra and Scalix constantly
injected into the discussion of Open Source groupware servers.
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