whitemice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[...]

>> OpenGroupware was technically very good when I reviewed it some time
>> ago, but I have not used it in production or looked at it in several
>> years.
>
> I'm an OpenGroupware developer, so my opinion is obvious.  We are
> currently working on making sure CalDAV (Sunbird) support is working
> smoothly.  And a new [commercial] Outlook connector is under
> development (pre-release soon) for any server that supports GroupDAV.

It is good to hear that the bridges into other protocols continue to
develop.  I would certainly review OpenGroupware again if the issue came
up, since having something completely open would be nice.

[...]

>> [2]  Commercial, sorry.
>> [3]  Semi-commercial, sorry.
>
> Yep.  It is irritating to those of us who work on really Open Source
> groupware servers to have products like Zimbra and Scalix constantly
> injected into the discussion of Open Source groupware servers.

Well, this discussion wasn't about "Open Source" groupware servers, it
was about "best/easiest setup" groupware servers, as per the original
poster.

That said, while I would not dispute your comment on Scalix, the claim
that Zimbra is any less "Open Source" than OpenGroupware seems -- to
me -- to be a pretty hard claim to support.

Both products seem to offer a selection of standard protocols, use
existing open source components, and provide a commercial version that
adds extra features including Outlook support.

As far as I can tell, from a licensing / open source perspective, both
Zimbra and OpenGroupware are equally "open" or "closed", depending on
how you count such things.


You clearly disagree with this, from that statement, and I would be very
interested to know why you feel that way.  Specifically, I would be
happy to learn where I was mistaken in my assessment, and that might
well change the way I deal with recommendations in future.

Regards,
        Daniel

(I would have described OpenGroupware as "semi-commercial" if I had been
 enthusiastic enough to annotate it, you see.)
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