On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 01:07:08PM +1100, Daniel Pittman wrote:
>Alan L Tyree <[email protected]> writes:
>>On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:29:32 +1100
>>Sonia Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>PS You might want to lookup what "tonto" means [1] before you go
>>>around calling people it. It was a term of disrespect for Amerindians
>>>on the US/Mexican border in the 1800's. At least be grammatically
>>>correct, and call me "tonta" :-p [1]
>>>http://www.spanishdict.com/translate/tonto

As a native Spanish speaker, I'll take offense if someone calls me
tonto. BTW, I've spoken to Sonia in Spanish and she speaks that language
very well.

>>For anyone born in the US during the last century, as I was, Tonto is
>>the Lone Ranger's faithful Indian companion. When we were kids, it was
>>worth fighting to be Tonto rather than the paleface. It's probably no
>>longer politically correct, but for different reasons than those
>>mentioned.

When I was a little kid, I couldn't understand why the loyal American
Indian was call "stupid" (tonto/tonta == stupid). The idea burnt in my
young brain was that all the American indians (from Tierra del Fuego in
Argentina to Alaska) were all stupid people for the USAians.

BTW (again), I also don't understand why the USA is call America. I'm
from Colombia and I'm an American. The continent is called America and
don't tell me it's call Americas.

>Uh, no.  That would be inappropriate for *exactly* the reason mentioned,
>which is to say that it is an insulting racial epithet.  The fact that
>it was used in that sense on television doesn't change those facts.
>
>So, just because the term was not seen as insulting doesn't make it any
>less insulting ??? just like "paleface" is.

Aye.
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