I made this offer once before and I'll make it again. If we get a new
LUGS committee together with an AGM with the 6 committee posts filled,
and given that it is being done in cooperation with SLMG (perhaps a new
LUGS/SLMG) I will pledge $1000 donation to this new LUGS/SLMG committee.
I have made this offer before and it still stands.
The intention is that the group uses it to get a single registered
adress, PO Box or secretarial service, so that we can have an address
for communications that is not tied to one particular committee member
(allowing flexible transitions between new committees), which is one of
the flaws I saw with LUGS in the past that has some room for improvement
(it was usually half way into the term of a new committee until the
address had been changed with ROS, ACRA, bank, etc... due to signatures
and resolutions, etc), so that the secretarial load for handling of
membership dues, etc can be shared between those who have the time
available.
Preferably an online sign-up for membership (for those of us who can
give money as a way to help the group organise its activities) - of
course retaining a free (monetary donationless) membership class (e.g.
slugnet) as we understand not all should have to pay, and donations of
time count too. This was one of the original gripes that I understood
was a factor in the SLMG group forking from LUGS community originally
(as LUGS used to charge a $10 fee for non-member attendance at meetings,
although this fee was subsequently abolished). I think it should be an
optional $60 donation for membership (which means we would have roughly
500 members now if we count up slugnet).
So are 6 of you guys going to make me poor - so far no one has bitten...
I think I may be safe ... :).
Sorry for top posting btw...
Michael Clark wrote:
Ray Rashif wrote:
Perhaps centralising the various resources and organisations? For eg.
SLMG is mentioned as a "sister organisation", but aren't informal
meetups also a function of a Linux user group? They're currently seen
as two different social entities, and it'd be better if they could be
merged. Various groups serving different communities make sense in
larger areas, but not here.
Those who are organising the linux monthly meetings choose to go under
a different banner for various historical reasons.
Having been a longstanding LUGS member I don't see the need to have
competing meetings so I have not worked actively to create a 2nd
meeting to SLMG (instead I have helped organise SLMG meetings in the
past), i.e. if there is demand for a LUGS meeting we'll probably just
ask the SLMG folk to create an event on meetup.com anyway - it is all
the same group of people...
I am currently not aware of a great deal of interest from the
community in general to get meetings going again under the LUGS
banner. I was suggesting to Tom Goh that SLMG pick up LUGS. If there
is enough interest, we can hold an AGM to elect the 6 required
committee members to keep LUGS going. The problem in the past has
always been one of getting enough volunteers to actually commit to
holding posts on the executive committee. That said, I encourage you
to rake up support and prod the current executive of LUGS (for which I
am part of) to hold an AGM. The required committee posts are all
outlined on the wiki.
The LUGS site could also be made to appear more active, hence
"spicing it up". I'd lean towards a simple CMS-based web, like drupal
or wordpress. I've recently been notified of a wp lookalike, habari
[[ http://habariproject.org/en/ ]]. Personally, I like wp since it
also provides seamless integration of forums via bbpress.
Yes - We don't really have a main website at present, only the wiki.
The main website was being run on a colocated machine at one point
(running plone), and there was no backup and the disk failed and
became corrupted beyond recoverability. We redirected the site to the
wiki in the interim (and it has been that way since). I'm not sure if
LUGS has an appointed webmaster at the moment.
That said, the wiki is completely open (you just need to sign up),
only the frontpage is restricted from editing, and if someone requests
to have a link on the front page (send to [email protected]) I
tend to respond quite quickly.
In the short term MoinMoin can be made to look quite spicy (ubuntu.com
uses it), so if someone gives me an ubuntu theme they like, I can
install it, and if folk like it we can make it the default. I am happy
to work with anyone who is interested to put a nice theme on the
present LUGS wiki.
Creating a new website would be a later task for a new LUGS committee.
With those in place, there may be more members, subscribers, and
ultimately more interest and manpower to participate in events,
workshops, and the like under the LUGS banner.
I do agree. I think there needs to be a fresh set of 6 people stand up
for the committee posts and prompt for an AGM/election to be held. I
am willing to help out but with my present outside of work
commitments, I would not stand for a committee position at a future
LUGS AGM.
I personally think there doesn't need to be a division within
Singapore in the Linux committee so I think it should be somehow done
together with SLMG, as presently it seems a little strange to how the
linux meetings are held under the SLMG banner with no mention of
LUGS.... i.e. the option is open to use the LUGS banner at SLMG
meetings has always been there...
The fact that people want to maintain a division and partisanship is
why I'm now hesitant to offer any support - as i'm not interested in
all of the politics... I would like to see LUGS keep going and I have
in the past support both groups having organised meetings for both, so
I am clearly non-partisan... If I see a group of people who support
both SLMG and LUGS then I am happy to work together with them (but not
with anyone who wishes to take sides).
Michael.
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