Anand Vaidya wrote:
Let me ask you this question: How many of the old LUGS people, including the LUGS committee members do you see at SLMG? Zilch.

That is simply untrue.

I sat together with Tom Goh at a joint SLMG/LUGS stand at last years SFD2008, and saw many other LUGS/SLMG faces (to me it is all the same group), including most of the LUGS committee members, Harish was the chair of one of the sessions for the entire day iirc, and I saw countless other LUGS people including committee members - many who I've bumped into at the other SLMG meetings i've spoken at or attended over the last few years.

I think no one is seriously interested in reviving LUGS. Today, for all practical purposes, the group most active in Linux in SG *IS* SLMG (and next is Team Ubuntu) and SLMG is growing to collaborate with other OSS groups to form an umbrella org called FOSA.

The fledgling FOSA has very similar issues to LUGS had the past and I have spoken to Tom Goh about this and we essentially in agreement here. I believe so far they have not filled the committee posts due to lack of people coming forward. FOSA is in exactly the same position as LUGS has been at past LUGS AGMs.

It is all to easy to blame whoever was willing to take responsibility at the time, but these people tend to never step forward themselves to be accountable for one of the committee positions. LUGS exco afterall is just members who were willing to put themselves forward - sometimes taking posts because nobody else would volunteer (even if unfortunately they had overcommitted due to work and family).

I myself have not had the time to do my post of LUGS Vice President justice. There seems to be a lot of pointless NIH (not invented here) syndrome here, when LUGS has always been a member-led organisation looking for volunteers and leadership.

I agree with Tom that there needs to be a reuniting of LUGS and SLMG so we can present a cohesive image against propretary software. Personal politics only damage our common cause (and serve to divide our community).

SLMG has to be congratulated for making a great monthly meeting, but I agree with Tom that we should unite the vibrant physical community (SLMG) with this vibrant virtual community (LUGS/slugnet).

It seems somewhat strange to me and for others new to Singapore that all of the local information relating to Linux and Singapore, and one of the most vibrant Singapore Open Source mailing lists is under the LUGS name, but the meetings are all held by SLMG. This should be fixed! (well at least I think so).

I believe there can only be a positive outcome from a united SLMG/LUGS or LUGS/SLMG, and we will be able to present a much more cohesive image to those visting Singapore, and searching for the local LUG when visting your lovely country.

We need to join our efforts not divide them! and pay some respect to LUGS supporters (unless you don't want people like me contributing).

My 2c.

(or my SG$1000 pledge if you guys are all willing to work together)


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