TNT you did not e-mail him our correct but you did mail the WHOLE smart bridges
list so we all see what your send that what a forum is about.
I don�t think that anyone�s rude comments are appreciated so could we not go
further with this you made your point and its no use crying over spilt milk if
you don�t like the product simply don�t use it but there are others that think
they product fits their needs and every company will have some problems no one
is perfect.
Martin
Quoting Tom & Toni Maris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> You rude bastard
> I didn't email you did I. So keep your nose out of my businessss.
> If you don't have something good to say, don't say it. I'm not your witch
>
> Jerk
>
>
> T n T
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: Bill Flood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new firmware?TnT
>
> ><rant>
> >Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 23:05:03 -0500
> >
> >TnT,
> >
> >Boo Hoo 6 grand big deal. I don't recognize your names at all. Have you
>
> >ever asked for help? Maybe you and Harry should get together and whine a
> >awhile.
> >
> ><snip> Tom, has been talking about a lawsuite to make this Smartbridge
> >company stand behind their products or give everyone their money back.
> ><snip>
> >
> >So who put the gun in your back and made you buy this horrendous product?
> >Is it really SB's responsibility to make sure you researched your products
>
> >carefully. Good luck finding people for your lawsuit! Do us {meaning:
> >those who use this product, communicate on this mailing list and share
> >technical expertise } a favor and go back where you came from still hiding
>
> >behind your Hotmail address. Better yet start your own mailing list. You
>
> >are an ISP, right?
> >
> >This list needs people who know how to troubleshoot and work through
> >problems. If you need help ask! It's apparent there are many here who
> >know how to "shoot off their mouths" Offer some help instead. This list
> >is here to offer technical support. If you simply wish to "piss and Moan"
>
> >go start a support group someplace else!
> >
> >At 09:43 PM 7/19/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >>My husband Tom is very pissed. We have invested more than $6,000.00 in
> >>this gear and we are constantly having prtoblems.
> >>On their web site thwy claim to be Carrier Class. Now we read the fine
> >>print on the rmapage and it says they will not give refund just
> >>replacement units and that you have to have the original box!
> >>Original box, replacement unit's, no refunds, Carrier class.
> >>This SmartBridges company certainly does not sound like an honest
> company.
> >>First I would like to know where they get off saying anything about
> >>Carrier class.
> >>Then if they are so sure about their Carrier class junk, why do you need
> >>an original box to sned them back, and why don't they do refunds?
> >>
> >>Tom, has been talking about a lawsuite to make this Smartbridge company
> >>stand behind their products or give everyone their money back. He thinks
> >>that their is probably enough people like us who got ripped off to get a
> >>class action lawsuite against the company who sold us this pile of junk
> >>
> >>Very very disapointed
> >>
> >>
> >>T n T
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: "Blazen Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new firmware?
> >>>Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 19:03:47 -0700
> >>>
> >>>Okay so it appears I am not the only one having the problem here We hav
> >>>users at begining at 3.5 miles and some as far as 7.2 miles the last
> >>>revision 0.01.06 just will not associate to any of my APS I had sugested
> >>>there is something going on here and I am finally able to get on this
> >>>list
> >>>and post only to see what I have been telling support since last week
> >>>before
> >>>the release only to be told its been working well in the "LAB"
> >>>
> >>>Here is my post from another forum these things need to be tested in a
> >>>consistant manor not just really close up.
> >>>1. Measure signal at 1, 2, 3, 4,5 ,6 and 7 miles if possible
> >>>2. At each point do some speed tests to confirm it is working and how
> >>>well
> >>>or how bad as you can see at some ares out we get association but speeds
>
> >>>are
> >>>WAY down.
> >>>These are only 2 that need to be added to the list of testing before ANY
> >>>final revision is released to save time and nerves of those of us in the
> >>>field!
> >>>
> >>>I keep asking what is the closest and farthest they have been tested in
> >>>the
> >>>"LAB" and I have yet to get an answer? is this something that is a
> >>>secret??
> >>>I too am not going to change firmware on the APPOS that are working rock
> >>>solid and have ALL my customers down.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> We have tried it (ver 0.01.06 rev 3 final release )and I have seen
> >>>problems
> >>>but to be fair we still need to identify if this firmware is compatible
> >>>with
> >>>the OLD atmel chip they had. We tried this new firmware on the only radio
>
> >>>we
> >>>have left since the other 2 locked up hardcore and are now doorstops
> >>>after
> >>>doing firmware upgrades with rev 2 & rev 3 just before the final
> release.
> >>>
> >>>Here is what we found after 3 hours of testing and we found the same
> >>>thing
> >>>on rev 2
> >>>
> >>>I don't how you guys feel about it and maybe this firmware is not
> >>>compatible
> >>>with the old good atmel chip per say.
> >>>The two test radios that locked up we just bought less then a month ago
> >>>so I
> >>>can only assume they had the problem. Unless they can come up with a way
>
> >>>to
> >>>positively identify which units are suspect with the suspect chip.
> >>>
> >>>I suggest you do the same tests with a spare radio that you can afford
> to
> >>>lose if the firmware upgrade goes bad. Basically what happens is the
> >>>radio
> >>>locks up and it no longer gives an Ethernet connection to log into the
> >>>radio, the power and wireless light stay on solid and you no longer get
> a
> >>>LAN connection or light many times I was told to reset and don't see how
> >>>that would work since that just resets passwords and the IP address etc
> >>>but
> >>>I tried 20 times anyways they even sent me a utility to unlock it but
> >>>that
> >>>was useless because you need a network connection to the radio hahaha.
> >>>
> >>>Anyways in a nut shell the firmware after testing as you can see in our
> >>>notes does not work for us yet Smart bridges claims it works well in the
>
> >>>lab
> >>>and others have tested as well which I would like to know how far away
> >>>they
> >>>tested the radio.
> >>>
> >>>1. ver 0.01.04 loaded originally on this unit and at 3.5 miles we
> >>>associate
> >>>fine and get download speeds in 900kbps to 1.2 megs
> >>>
> >>>2. Loaded ver 0.01.06 final rev into radio it loads fine and at same 3.5
> >>>mile location we get not even half the speeds we did with rev 0.01.04 we
>
> >>>get
> >>>200kbps to 300kbps at most and have lots of packet loss.
> >>>RSSI 85% and signal quality 90-95% with both firmware.
> >>>
> >>>3. Moved to 5 mile location ran same speed tests with firmware 0.01.04
> >>>get
> >>>speeds of 800kbps consistently loaded ver 0.01.06 final revision and we
> >>>associate but thats it radio will not ping APPO on tower but we can ping
>
> >>>ABO
> >>>radio with new firmware. RSSI 80% signal quality 80% with both firmware.
> >>>
> >>>So as you can see this firmware will not work for us. I don't understand
> >>>what happened it seems that this is now possibly a timing issue?
> >>>
> >>>The only question I have is will version 0.01.06 work on old radios with
>
> >>>old
> >>>atmel chip? and if not then we will proceed further to load the 0.01.06
> >>>on
> >>>clients radios but once again we have no way of telling which radios
> have
> >>>new or old atmel chip?
> >>>
> >>>Our coverage area begins at 3.5 miles and runs
> >>>out to 7.2 miles.
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Colorado Wisp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 1:18 PM
> >>>Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new firmware?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Nish,
> >>>
> >>>We updated several of one of our "overheating" units this morning and it
> >>>will not associate with our APs running 1.4j.5. We have no plans to
> >>>update
> >>>the firmware on the APs, they have been rock solid. Is there going to
> be
> >>>firmware that will interact this firmware version?
> >>>
> >>>Chris
> >>>
> >>>---
> >>>Colorado WISP llc. http://www.cowisp.net
> >>>Bringing high speed internet to rural communities.
> >>>P.O. Box 55
> >>>Wellington, Colorado 80549
> >>>970-218-5295
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>On Behalf Of Nish Park
> >>>Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 2:49 AM
> >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new firmware?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Tim,
> >>>Can you please elaborate a little more on this "still doing the same
> >>>thing!". What was the problem, new unit (June or July purchase?), RSSI
> >>>and
> >>>LQ values, Brand of AP?
> >>>
> >>>We have confirmed that the problem of loosing association at elevated
> >>>temperature has been solved. This has been the focus of all our efforts
> >>>and
> >>>we are quire confident that issue no longer exist. Now we will be
> >>>focusing
> >>>on testing if there has been any other side effects.
> >>>
> >>> >From some of the emails it appears that some of you are trying to see
> >>> >if
> >>>the new F/W also fixes the old/lingering problem of "periodic lockup". I
> >>>will be pleasantly surprised to hear that it does, but that has not been
>
> >>>the
> >>>focus of the current activity on hand.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks for your support.
> >>>
> >>>Nish
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>On Behalf Of Tim Harris
> >>>Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 12:32 PM
> >>>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> >>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new firmware?
> >>>
> >>>Yep, I installed it this afternoon on a client's unit. Had to unplug it
>
> >>>to
> >>>get it to start working after uploading the new firmware. Started
> >>>working
> >>>fine.
> >>>
> >>>Customer called back an hour later and left two messages, still doing
> the
> >>>same thing!
> >>>
> >>>If it smells like it, if it looks like it........
> >>>
> >>>Hmm, maybe the guy with the Hotmail address might have a point. This
> >>>seems
> >>>to be getting ridiculous.
> >>>
> >>>I'm doing two more tomorrow morning, I'll post a response then..
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Tim Harris, Operations
> >>>www.dwisp.net
> >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 10:09 AM
> >>>Subject: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new firmware?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > Has anyone installed the new firmware? I'm getting ready to try, but
> >>> > wanted to check first to see what sort of luck others have had.
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks
> >>> > Sam
> >>> >
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