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>>From: Bill Flood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new firmware?TnT 
>><rant>
>>Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 23:05:03 -0500
>>
>>TnT,
>>
>>Boo Hoo  6 grand big deal.  I don't recognize your names at all.  Have you 
>>ever asked for help?  Maybe you and Harry should get together and whine a 
>>awhile.
>>
>><snip> Tom, has been talking about a lawsuite to make this Smartbridge 
>>company stand behind their products or give everyone their money back. 
>><snip>
>>
>>So who put the gun in your back and made you buy this horrendous product? 
>>Is it really SB's responsibility to make sure you researched your products 
>>carefully.  Good luck finding people for your lawsuit!  Do us {meaning: 
>>those who use this product, communicate on this mailing list and share 
>>technical expertise } a favor and go back where you came from still hiding 
>>behind your Hotmail address.  Better yet start your own mailing list.  You 
>>are an ISP, right?
>>
>>This list needs people who know how to troubleshoot and work through 
>>problems.  If you need help ask!  It's apparent there are many here who 
>>know how to "shoot off their mouths"  Offer some help instead.  This list 
>>is here to offer technical support.  If you simply wish to "piss and Moan" 
>>go start a support group someplace else!
>>
>>At 09:43 PM 7/19/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>>>My  husband Tom is very pissed. We have invested more than $6,000.00 in 
>>>this gear and we are constantly having prtoblems.
>>>On their web site thwy claim to be Carrier Class. Now we read the fine 
>>>print on the rmapage and it says they will not give refund just 
>>>replacement units and that you have to have the original box!
>>>Original box, replacement unit's, no refunds, Carrier class.
>>>This SmartBridges company certainly does not sound like an honest company.
>>>First I would like to know where they get off saying anything about 
>>>Carrier class.
>>>Then if they are so sure about their Carrier class junk, why do you need 
>>>an original box to sned them back, and why don't they do refunds?
>>>
>>>Tom, has been talking about a lawsuite to make this Smartbridge company 
>>>stand behind their products or give everyone their money back. He thinks 
>>>that their is probably enough people like us who got ripped off to get a 
>>>class action lawsuite against the company who sold us this pile of junk
>>>
>>>Very very disapointed
>>>
>>>
>>>T n T
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: "Blazen Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new firmware?
>>>>Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 19:03:47 -0700
>>>>
>>>>Okay so it appears I am not the only one having the problem here We hav
>>>>users at begining at 3.5 miles and some as far as 7.2 miles the last
>>>>revision 0.01.06 just will not associate to any of my APS I had sugested
>>>>there is something going on here and I am finally able to get on this 
>>>>list
>>>>and post only to see what I have been telling support since last week 
>>>>before
>>>>the release only to be told its been working well in the "LAB"
>>>>
>>>>Here is my post from another forum these things need to be tested in a
>>>>consistant manor not just really close up.
>>>>1. Measure signal at 1, 2, 3, 4,5 ,6 and 7 miles if possible
>>>>2. At each point do some speed tests to confirm it is working and how 
>>>>well
>>>>or how bad as you can see at some ares out we get association but speeds 
>>>>are
>>>>WAY down.
>>>>These are only 2 that need to be added to the list of testing before ANY
>>>>final revision is released to save time and nerves of those of us in the
>>>>field!
>>>>
>>>>I keep asking what is the closest and farthest they have been tested in 
>>>>the
>>>>"LAB" and I have yet to get an answer? is this something that is a 
>>>>secret??
>>>>I too am not going to change firmware on the APPOS that are working rock
>>>>solid and have ALL my customers down.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  We have tried it (ver 0.01.06 rev 3 final release )and I have seen 
>>>>problems
>>>>but to be fair we still need to identify if this firmware is compatible 
>>>>with
>>>>the OLD atmel chip they had. We tried this new firmware on the only radio 
>>>>we
>>>>have left since the other 2 locked up hardcore and are now doorstops 
>>>>after
>>>>doing firmware upgrades with rev 2 & rev 3 just before the final release.
>>>>
>>>>Here is what we found after 3 hours of testing and we found the same 
>>>>thing
>>>>on rev 2
>>>>
>>>>I don't how you guys feel about it and maybe this firmware is not 
>>>>compatible
>>>>with the old good atmel chip per say.
>>>>The two test radios that locked up we just bought less then a month ago 
>>>>so I
>>>>can only assume they had the problem. Unless they can come up with a way 
>>>>to
>>>>positively identify which units are suspect with the suspect chip.
>>>>
>>>>I suggest you do the same tests with a spare radio that you can afford to
>>>>lose if the firmware upgrade goes bad. Basically what happens is the 
>>>>radio
>>>>locks up and it no longer gives an Ethernet connection to log into the
>>>>radio, the power and wireless light stay on solid and you no longer get a
>>>>LAN connection or light many times I was told to reset and don't see how
>>>>that would work since that just resets passwords and the IP address etc 
>>>>but
>>>>I tried 20 times anyways they even sent me a utility to unlock it but 
>>>>that
>>>>was useless because you need a network connection to the radio hahaha.
>>>>
>>>>Anyways in a nut shell the firmware after testing as you can see in our
>>>>notes does not work for us yet Smart bridges claims it works well in the 
>>>>lab
>>>>and others have tested as well which I would like to know how far away 
>>>>they
>>>>tested the radio.
>>>>
>>>>1. ver 0.01.04 loaded originally on this unit and at 3.5 miles we 
>>>>associate
>>>>fine and get download speeds in 900kbps to 1.2 megs
>>>>
>>>>2. Loaded ver 0.01.06 final rev into radio it loads fine and at same 3.5
>>>>mile location we get not even half the speeds we did with rev 0.01.04 we 
>>>>get
>>>>200kbps to 300kbps at most and have lots of packet loss.
>>>>RSSI 85% and signal quality 90-95% with both firmware.
>>>>
>>>>3. Moved to 5 mile location ran same speed tests with firmware 0.01.04 
>>>>get
>>>>speeds of 800kbps consistently loaded ver 0.01.06 final revision and we
>>>>associate but thats it radio will not ping APPO on tower but we can ping 
>>>>ABO
>>>>radio with new firmware. RSSI 80% signal quality 80% with both firmware.
>>>>
>>>>So as you can see this firmware will not work for us. I don't understand
>>>>what happened it seems that this is now possibly a timing issue?
>>>>
>>>>The only question I have is will version 0.01.06 work on old radios with 
>>>>old
>>>>atmel chip? and if not then we will proceed further to load the 0.01.06 
>>>>on
>>>>clients radios but once again we have no way of telling which radios have
>>>>new or old atmel chip?
>>>>
>>>>Our coverage area begins at 3.5 miles and runs
>>>>out to 7.2 miles.
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Colorado Wisp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 1:18 PM
>>>>Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new firmware?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Nish,
>>>>
>>>>We updated several of one of our "overheating" units this morning and it
>>>>will not associate with our APs running 1.4j.5.  We have no plans to 
>>>>update
>>>>the firmware on the APs, they have been rock solid.  Is there going to be
>>>>firmware that will interact this firmware version?
>>>>
>>>>Chris
>>>>
>>>>---
>>>>Colorado WISP llc. http://www.cowisp.net
>>>>Bringing high speed internet to rural communities.
>>>>P.O. Box 55
>>>>Wellington, Colorado  80549
>>>>970-218-5295
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>On Behalf Of Nish Park
>>>>Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 2:49 AM
>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new firmware?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Tim,
>>>>Can you please elaborate a little more on this "still doing the same
>>>>thing!". What was the problem, new unit (June or July purchase?), RSSI 
>>>>and
>>>>LQ values, Brand of AP?
>>>>
>>>>We have confirmed that the problem of loosing association at elevated
>>>>temperature has been solved. This has been the focus of all our efforts 
>>>>and
>>>>we are quire confident that issue no longer exist. Now we will be 
>>>>focusing
>>>>on testing if there has been any other side effects.
>>>>
>>>> >From some of the emails it appears that some of you are trying to see
>>>> >if
>>>>the new F/W also fixes the old/lingering problem of "periodic lockup". I
>>>>will be pleasantly surprised to hear that it does, but that has not been 
>>>>the
>>>>focus of the current activity on hand.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for your support.
>>>>
>>>>Nish
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>On Behalf Of Tim Harris
>>>>Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 12:32 PM
>>>>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>>>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new firmware?
>>>>
>>>>Yep, I installed it this afternoon on a client's unit.  Had to unplug it 
>>>>to
>>>>get it to start working after uploading the new firmware.  Started 
>>>>working
>>>>fine.
>>>>
>>>>Customer called back an hour later and left two messages, still doing the
>>>>same thing!
>>>>
>>>>If it smells like it, if it looks like it........
>>>>
>>>>Hmm, maybe the guy with the Hotmail address might have a point.  This 
>>>>seems
>>>>to be getting ridiculous.
>>>>
>>>>I'm doing two more tomorrow morning, I'll post a response then..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Tim Harris, Operations
>>>>www.dwisp.net
>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 10:09 AM
>>>>Subject: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new firmware?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Has anyone installed the new firmware? I'm getting ready to try, but
>>>> > wanted to check first to see what sort of luck others have had.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks
>>>> > Sam
>>>> >
>>>> >
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