Well if people would stop replying to the post maybe it will stop?
Quoting John Hokenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Does SmartBridge have any provision to delete someone from the mailing
> list?
> This is really getting tiresome. I am interested in solving the problems,
> not listening to this....
>
> JH
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom & Toni Maris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 9:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new firmware?TnT
> <rant>
>
>
> > You rude bastard
> > I didn't email you did I. So keep your nose out of my businessss.
> > If you don't have something good to say, don't say it. I'm not your witch
> >
> > Jerk
> >
> >
> > T n T
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Bill Flood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new
> firmware?TnT
> > ><rant>
> > >Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 23:05:03 -0500
> > >
> > >TnT,
> > >
> > >Boo Hoo 6 grand big deal. I don't recognize your names at all. Have
> you
> > >ever asked for help? Maybe you and Harry should get together and whine
> a
> > >awhile.
> > >
> > ><snip> Tom, has been talking about a lawsuite to make this Smartbridge
> > >company stand behind their products or give everyone their money back.
> > ><snip>
> > >
> > >So who put the gun in your back and made you buy this horrendous
> product?
> > >Is it really SB's responsibility to make sure you researched your
> products
> > >carefully. Good luck finding people for your lawsuit! Do us {meaning:
> > >those who use this product, communicate on this mailing list and share
> > >technical expertise } a favor and go back where you came from still
> hiding
> > >behind your Hotmail address. Better yet start your own mailing list.
> You
> > >are an ISP, right?
> > >
> > >This list needs people who know how to troubleshoot and work through
> > >problems. If you need help ask! It's apparent there are many here who
> > >know how to "shoot off their mouths" Offer some help instead. This
> list
> > >is here to offer technical support. If you simply wish to "piss and
> Moan"
> > >go start a support group someplace else!
> > >
> > >At 09:43 PM 7/19/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > >>My husband Tom is very pissed. We have invested more than $6,000.00 in
> > >>this gear and we are constantly having prtoblems.
> > >>On their web site thwy claim to be Carrier Class. Now we read the fine
> > >>print on the rmapage and it says they will not give refund just
> > >>replacement units and that you have to have the original box!
> > >>Original box, replacement unit's, no refunds, Carrier class.
> > >>This SmartBridges company certainly does not sound like an honest
> company.
> > >>First I would like to know where they get off saying anything about
> > >>Carrier class.
> > >>Then if they are so sure about their Carrier class junk, why do you
> need
> > >>an original box to sned them back, and why don't they do refunds?
> > >>
> > >>Tom, has been talking about a lawsuite to make this Smartbridge company
> > >>stand behind their products or give everyone their money back. He
> thinks
> > >>that their is probably enough people like us who got ripped off to get
> a
> > >>class action lawsuite against the company who sold us this pile of junk
> > >>
> > >>Very very disapointed
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>T n T
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>From: "Blazen Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new
> firmware?
> > >>>Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 19:03:47 -0700
> > >>>
> > >>>Okay so it appears I am not the only one having the problem here We
> hav
> > >>>users at begining at 3.5 miles and some as far as 7.2 miles the last
> > >>>revision 0.01.06 just will not associate to any of my APS I had
> sugested
> > >>>there is something going on here and I am finally able to get on this
> > >>>list
> > >>>and post only to see what I have been telling support since last week
> > >>>before
> > >>>the release only to be told its been working well in the "LAB"
> > >>>
> > >>>Here is my post from another forum these things need to be tested in a
> > >>>consistant manor not just really close up.
> > >>>1. Measure signal at 1, 2, 3, 4,5 ,6 and 7 miles if possible
> > >>>2. At each point do some speed tests to confirm it is working and how
> > >>>well
> > >>>or how bad as you can see at some ares out we get association but
> speeds
> > >>>are
> > >>>WAY down.
> > >>>These are only 2 that need to be added to the list of testing before
> ANY
> > >>>final revision is released to save time and nerves of those of us in
> the
> > >>>field!
> > >>>
> > >>>I keep asking what is the closest and farthest they have been tested
> in
> > >>>the
> > >>>"LAB" and I have yet to get an answer? is this something that is a
> > >>>secret??
> > >>>I too am not going to change firmware on the APPOS that are working
> rock
> > >>>solid and have ALL my customers down.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> We have tried it (ver 0.01.06 rev 3 final release )and I have seen
> > >>>problems
> > >>>but to be fair we still need to identify if this firmware is
> compatible
> > >>>with
> > >>>the OLD atmel chip they had. We tried this new firmware on the only
> radio
> > >>>we
> > >>>have left since the other 2 locked up hardcore and are now doorstops
> > >>>after
> > >>>doing firmware upgrades with rev 2 & rev 3 just before the final
> release.
> > >>>
> > >>>Here is what we found after 3 hours of testing and we found the same
> > >>>thing
> > >>>on rev 2
> > >>>
> > >>>I don't how you guys feel about it and maybe this firmware is not
> > >>>compatible
> > >>>with the old good atmel chip per say.
> > >>>The two test radios that locked up we just bought less then a month
> ago
> > >>>so I
> > >>>can only assume they had the problem. Unless they can come up with a
> way
> > >>>to
> > >>>positively identify which units are suspect with the suspect chip.
> > >>>
> > >>>I suggest you do the same tests with a spare radio that you can afford
> to
> > >>>lose if the firmware upgrade goes bad. Basically what happens is the
> > >>>radio
> > >>>locks up and it no longer gives an Ethernet connection to log into the
> > >>>radio, the power and wireless light stay on solid and you no longer
> get
> a
> > >>>LAN connection or light many times I was told to reset and don't see
> how
> > >>>that would work since that just resets passwords and the IP address
> etc
> > >>>but
> > >>>I tried 20 times anyways they even sent me a utility to unlock it but
> > >>>that
> > >>>was useless because you need a network connection to the radio hahaha.
> > >>>
> > >>>Anyways in a nut shell the firmware after testing as you can see in
> our
> > >>>notes does not work for us yet Smart bridges claims it works well in
> the
> > >>>lab
> > >>>and others have tested as well which I would like to know how far away
> > >>>they
> > >>>tested the radio.
> > >>>
> > >>>1. ver 0.01.04 loaded originally on this unit and at 3.5 miles we
> > >>>associate
> > >>>fine and get download speeds in 900kbps to 1.2 megs
> > >>>
> > >>>2. Loaded ver 0.01.06 final rev into radio it loads fine and at same
> 3.5
> > >>>mile location we get not even half the speeds we did with rev 0.01.04
> we
> > >>>get
> > >>>200kbps to 300kbps at most and have lots of packet loss.
> > >>>RSSI 85% and signal quality 90-95% with both firmware.
> > >>>
> > >>>3. Moved to 5 mile location ran same speed tests with firmware 0.01.04
> > >>>get
> > >>>speeds of 800kbps consistently loaded ver 0.01.06 final revision and
> we
> > >>>associate but thats it radio will not ping APPO on tower but we can
> ping
> > >>>ABO
> > >>>radio with new firmware. RSSI 80% signal quality 80% with both
> firmware.
> > >>>
> > >>>So as you can see this firmware will not work for us. I don't
> understand
> > >>>what happened it seems that this is now possibly a timing issue?
> > >>>
> > >>>The only question I have is will version 0.01.06 work on old radios
> with
> > >>>old
> > >>>atmel chip? and if not then we will proceed further to load the
> 0.01.06
> > >>>on
> > >>>clients radios but once again we have no way of telling which radios
> have
> > >>>new or old atmel chip?
> > >>>
> > >>>Our coverage area begins at 3.5 miles and runs
> > >>>out to 7.2 miles.
> > >>>
> > >>>----- Original Message -----
> > >>>From: "Colorado Wisp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>>Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 1:18 PM
> > >>>Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new
> firmware?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Nish,
> > >>>
> > >>>We updated several of one of our "overheating" units this morning and
> it
> > >>>will not associate with our APs running 1.4j.5. We have no plans to
> > >>>update
> > >>>the firmware on the APs, they have been rock solid. Is there going to
> be
> > >>>firmware that will interact this firmware version?
> > >>>
> > >>>Chris
> > >>>
> > >>>---
> > >>>Colorado WISP llc. http://www.cowisp.net
> > >>>Bringing high speed internet to rural communities.
> > >>>P.O. Box 55
> > >>>Wellington, Colorado 80549
> > >>>970-218-5295
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>-----Original Message-----
> > >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>>On Behalf Of Nish Park
> > >>>Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 2:49 AM
> > >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>>Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new
> firmware?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Tim,
> > >>>Can you please elaborate a little more on this "still doing the same
> > >>>thing!". What was the problem, new unit (June or July purchase?), RSSI
> > >>>and
> > >>>LQ values, Brand of AP?
> > >>>
> > >>>We have confirmed that the problem of loosing association at elevated
> > >>>temperature has been solved. This has been the focus of all our
> efforts
> > >>>and
> > >>>we are quire confident that issue no longer exist. Now we will be
> > >>>focusing
> > >>>on testing if there has been any other side effects.
> > >>>
> > >>> >From some of the emails it appears that some of you are trying to
> see
> > >>> >if
> > >>>the new F/W also fixes the old/lingering problem of "periodic lockup".
> I
> > >>>will be pleasantly surprised to hear that it does, but that has not
> been
> > >>>the
> > >>>focus of the current activity on hand.
> > >>>
> > >>>Thanks for your support.
> > >>>
> > >>>Nish
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>-----Original Message-----
> > >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>>On Behalf Of Tim Harris
> > >>>Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 12:32 PM
> > >>>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > >>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new
> firmware?
> > >>>
> > >>>Yep, I installed it this afternoon on a client's unit. Had to unplug
> it
> > >>>to
> > >>>get it to start working after uploading the new firmware. Started
> > >>>working
> > >>>fine.
> > >>>
> > >>>Customer called back an hour later and left two messages, still doing
> the
> > >>>same thing!
> > >>>
> > >>>If it smells like it, if it looks like it........
> > >>>
> > >>>Hmm, maybe the guy with the Hotmail address might have a point. This
> > >>>seems
> > >>>to be getting ridiculous.
> > >>>
> > >>>I'm doing two more tomorrow morning, I'll post a response then..
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Tim Harris, Operations
> > >>>www.dwisp.net
> > >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>----- Original Message -----
> > >>>From: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>>Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 10:09 AM
> > >>>Subject: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new firmware?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> > Has anyone installed the new firmware? I'm getting ready to try,
> but
> > >>> > wanted to check first to see what sort of luck others have had.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Thanks
> > >>> > Sam
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
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