Re: [smartBridges] APPO furstrations..

Kevin Proctor Mon, 18 Aug 2003 11:45:45 -0700

The 29 Model A has been built with tools from Harbor Freight. Don't buy any of their cheap power tools, though. The industrial ones are ok, but the cheap ones are just that. Cheap

Kevin

Blazen Wireless wrote:

that may work I thought I saw one unit that has separate indoor and outdoor probes cant remember where I saw it though. Harbor fright has all kinds of good stuff.

;-)

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From: Kevin Proctor

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Subject: Re: [smartBridges] APPO furstrations..

Martin,

You can use a indoor/outdoor thermometer from Harbor Freight. (www.harborfreight.com) They run about $10 and read up to about 144 degrees before the display goes black. I wish I had a part number, but my catalog is at home. They are not among those listed on the website. You can catch them on sale sometimes for about $5.00 each. They have several retail stores in CA. Check them out.

Kevin

Blazen Wireless wrote:

Okay still having problems with heat and some units shutting down still. I
have had to go reset 4 radios in the last 2 days and the temp has been well
over 105 or more each day. I do notice that on my Motorola Canopy stuff it
has a temp sensor built in to monitor board temp and both on the AP and on
the CPE side we use for backhaul the temps have been 165 on the CPE and
aprox 140* on the AP I have seen them go as high as 175* on the client
units.


Now here is my question if the temp reaches that hot on those units it leads
me to believe that the temps on the SB product will be roughly the same. If
I am not mistaken was it not 130* that the SB stuff was rated at? If so then
people we have a problem that no amount of firmware is going to fix. The
only thing that will is a hardware change with more heat tolerance...

Just my 2 cents I am tempted to go get a high temp thermometer and tape it
to an SB unit to verify how hot the case is getting or some kind of internal
sensor and put one in there to monitor the heat inside one unit Any
suggestions on where I can find such a device CHEAP?? Since it appears we
are going to get no help and we will have to sit and do testing for sb to
show that there still is a problem..

If I have to pay a darn engineer to run a couple of these things thru
testing and what not I am at that point just to find out WHAT the heck is
going on..

Even the YDI ether ants are having problems with "firmware" in the heat I
have another WISP in town who has had 15 go down and NOT come back in the
last week. His YDI all in one AP they sell is now also starting to take a
crap too all due to heat issues. So its not just SB unless they are using
the same chipset. HEAT IS A KILLER around here all these manufacturers make
these things to deal with hold and wetness yet I have not seen anyone make
something to combat heat. I bet if you put all these ABO's and APPO's in a
cool area the problems would end.


Any suggestions and comments appreciated..
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From: "Colin Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 7:23 AM
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I'd give: http://www.ixiacom.com/enterprise/Chariot.php?section=10#console a
try. Grab the console, install it on your laptop, grab the endpoint for the
consumer's PC, and get them to run it. Then conduct throughput tests via the
chariot console from the backbone side of the AP through to the customer.
Should provide you information on throughput TCP/UDP etc.

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Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 2:32 PM
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1 queue per customer on the software..


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How are you setting your queques?, the BCU has individual queques, are you
using 1 queque per customer or are you using 1 queque for many customers?

Gino

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I am using a BCU between the t-1 router and the clients
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You need a bandwidth manager on your network and bandwidth limit your
clients.

Plus if your doing a completely bridge network then you seriously
needs to start doing some routing on your network or else things will
not work.

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BW> Okay guys here is a question I know SB says they can have up to 128
clients associated to the APPO. I have aprox 22 on each one and they are
totally crapping out by that mean I get 4-5 users on
BW> downloading at any given time and I swear to you pings just go to hell
as high as 200-300 and lows about 30ms. I have tried EVERYTHING RTS CTS
different channels WEP no WEP anything and
BW> everything and it has got me by the balls and I am tired of clients
calling me complaining it is slow. It used to be awesome with 4-5 users
total on it and even 10 users but after that its just
BW> gone down hill.

BW> Any suggestion would GREATLY be appreciated.

BW> two APPO's each connected to a 500mw Amp 50 ft of coax LMR 400 and

then

to a 13DB 90* pac wireless ant one facing north and one facing south both

on

chan 3 I know I know you will say interference
BW> from each other I tried separating and it made no difference it

actually

got worse I even had one appo in client bridge mode to check interference
and I saw nothing form the APPO right next to it
BW> and very few other Access points out in the field. Most were at rssi

maybe 30% and link 20%.


BW> PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE help me with any ideas I am all out I have worked
on this all week I have a remote pop that is fed by the main two APPO's

and

the two customers on that radio can ping the
BW> remote appo all day long with less then 5 ms yet when you try and ping
the main appos the pings are all over the place..

BW> Oh yea most all signals at eh APPO's from the client show (not sure

how

accurate) 80 -100 RSSI some just under 80% and link about the same so I
don't know if this could hamper it I have tried
BW> with a couple clients setting the APPO and ABO to autofallback speeds
and that seemed to help for a couple people that were far out about 4-5
miles people up close seem to be fine..

BW> 13-19db ants on each install

BW> HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP


BW> Martin

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