It would be different if it was the lowest price solution and we knew they didn't work well.
But it's not the lowest price solution and others at the same price or lower are working well.
You buddies over their at Teletronics have a lower priced unit that seems to be working flawlessly. Tranzeo has a lower priced unit that is working flawlessly.
Proxim has a lower priced unit that we don't hear anyone bitching about. And there is more.


It's funny how one goes from the advocate for the wisp to the advocate of the vendor.
George



Marlon Schafer (509-982-2181) wrote:


It's an amazing thing isn't it. We buy very nice devices at below market rates and then have the guts to get made when they don't perform better than anything else we've ever run! lol
If only we didn't have to compete against cable and dsl companies that have the money to buy customers....
marlon


    ----- Original Message -----
    *From:* The Wirefree Network <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    *Sent:* Friday, August 22, 2003 8:39 PM
    *Subject:* RE: [smartBridges] Brand New APPO's!

    Of course they work out of the box. The firmware upgrade was not
    to enable the device. It was to correct the “timing” issue which
    was causing disassociation (heat related). So…it will work out of
    the box. It just may crash soon after….that is why the sticker
    says upgrade.

    With that said, I had the same problems with my units. They
    initially started flashing all the lights. Wooohoo…all my clients
    are coming online. Within 5 minutes, the blue light stopped and
    soon there after the LAN side locked up as well. Bad units….RMA them.

    But hey…I am not on sB’s payroll…and I don’t approve the RMA’s…so
    don’t listen to me. I have just spent enough time playing with
    these units. Prior to June…you plugged them in and they just
    worked. BAMMM!

Sully

    -----Original Message-----
    *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Shawn Mitchell
    *Sent:* Friday, August 22, 2003 8:16 PM
    *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    *Subject:* RE: [smartBridges] Brand New APPO's!

Nish,

    My point is that they would work out of the box WITH OUT upgrading
    them. The units both had blue flashing lights, but one of them
    didn't after they had been running sitting in the sun for several
    hours.

    Yes, the Ethernet was working great.. I was connected to it via
    simpleMonitor watching the RF (wireless) counters... all sitting
    at 0... I'm trying to tell you that you have have solved some of
    the heat issues, but not all of them. Your still sending out bad
    units and telling people to put a bandaid on them. Intel tried the
    same thing with their old Pentium 60Mhz CPU's years back, and in
    the end they switched them out with good ones.

        -----Original Message-----
        *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *Nish Park
        *Sent:* Friday, August 22, 2003 21:54
        *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        *Subject:* RE: [smartBridges] Brand New APPO's!

Shawn,

        I read the email a few times and watched the movie also. I am
        not sure what point you are trying to make. As the label says,
        you need to upgrade the F/W before it will work properly.
        There are no units with “bad” chips in them. The thermal issue
        can be solved by either the new hardware or the new firmware.

        (ps. After the firmware upgrade you may want to associate a
        client to check the operation. In the movie it looks like you
        may have a unit with bad Blue LED. Ethernet LED is flashing as
        per normal so it looks like the units is working ok but for
        some reason the Blue LED may have come off the solder joint).

Nish

        -----Original Message-----
        *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Shawn
        Mitchell
        *Sent:* Saturday, August 23, 2003 9:20 AM
        *To:* '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
        *Subject:* RE: [smartBridges] Brand New APPO's!

        I'm resizing the images and stuff right now... I'll have them
        put up pretty soon, but you'll see my point exactly on what
        I've been dealing with over the last few months.

            -----Original Message-----
            *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
            [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
            *Chris Chance
            *Sent:* Friday, August 22, 2003 18:38
            *To:* '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
            *Subject:* RE: [smartBridges] Brand New APPO's!

            How the hell... whats that bug u speak of sounds kinda
            funny since u said u passed traffic

            -----Original Message-----
            From: Shawn Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
            Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 7:05 PM
            To: smartBridges

And they have bad chips in them!

            The white sticker on the box say's "Before these will work
            correctly, you
            must upgrade them"... So I think to myself, "Smartbridges
            said they pulled
            back all the ones they still had with bad chips, so these
            must not have any
            heat issues... right.." WRONG!

            Here's a nice little 30 second movie:
            http://www.iodamedia.net/new-appo.avi

            One on the bottom is running the .8 code, one on top is
            running the code it
            came with, .5

            Now, they got deliverd at around 12:30pm CDT. I wasn't
            there, called them
            on the phone and told them to sit them outside in the sun,
            plugged in just
            for grins.

            This day (yesterday) happen to be breaking record temps
            all over the place.
            It showed 102*F on the temp readout on my jeep. These
            units were warm, but
            not hot to the touch. "burnning" to the human touch is
            around 50*C (122*F).
            MUCH lower than what the units are rated at.

            But anyway, you can very plainly see that on the bottom
            unit, it's working
            just as normal (RFtxrx light blinks), but on the top
            one... it's totaly off.
            DEAD...

            well, I didn't replace the two AP's that I needed to
            replace still. I
            tested them today.. I'm going to put up the screen shots
            from it.. it's
            quite funny, and let's just say I found a few FW bugs in
            the airBridge, or
            else SB you make good enough of a radio that it connected
            to an AP 5 miles
            away, through/around a large hill, and through 20+
            multistory brick
            buildings (with a RSSI of -20 something and a LQ of 90%+
            and passing traffic
            for a while)



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