Very good advice, thank you for that. I am certainly not going to do anything until I have proof. I am just going to continue installing customers and doing whatever I can to minimize the interference. My main reason for suspecting them of sabotage is not because of the new access points I am seeing, but from the attitude they gave us when we tried to talk to them a month ago. Right now I am in "wait and see" mode. There was a story about both our companies on the front page of the local paper today. Hopefully the citizens of this community will choose the local company versus the "out of towners". That is my only trump card since I can't compete with them on price.
Thanks, Gloria ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [smartBridges] [good and bad] New aPPo from Singapore > Before you get too involved in the conspiracy theories, keep in mind that the > fact that they changed the channel on their APs does not necessarily mean that > they're trying to intentionally interfere with you. This is particularly true > since they just went live on Monday. Maybe after a few days they realized > that the channel they were on originally was seeing a lot of noise, so they > switched to what they thought was a cleaner channel. There could be a lot of > explainations. > > Surely any halfway intelligent WISP would realize that by doubling up on the > same channels you're using, they'll be causing themselves just as much trouble > as they're causing you. After all, their equipment is probably just as prone > to noise as yours is. > > Anyway, it's obviously very possible that they're messing with you. If they > are, they're idiots. Just make sure you have some proof before you start > taking drastic measures. > > I've had numerous occasions where I've suspected foul play, only to find out > that the source of my trouble was the guy down the street who just bought a > 2.4 video surveillance system, or the Cellular company that just started > backhauling on 2.4. So far, my conspiracy theories have always been disproven > after a little investigation. > > Craig > > > Quoting Gloria Vester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > If they are reading this list, then they already know way too much about me > > and my business. But, oh well. I am going to win this war - this is my > > town and I will fight for it to the end. I just locked up the local > > newspaper office and am going to join the local Rotary Club and offer a > > real > > sweet deal to any Rotary members who sign up with me. They are playing > > with > > city officials, so I will play with the community big boys. <evil grin> > > > > Gloria > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:48 AM > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] [good and bad] New aPPo from Singapore > > > > > > > YEp they probably are reading the lists. > > > Maybe they will change their essid's to yours and really screw with you. > > > George > > > > > > > > > Gloria Vester wrote: > > > > I would love to do that - you guys have been so great and supportive, > > > > but I would be afraid they are lurking on this list and see it and I > > > > don't want to risk giving them any reasons to come after me anymore > > than > > > > they already are. Last night the customer that was seeing their ap was > > > > not able to get online. I was on the phone with him until almost > > > > midnight trying to get him back up, to no avail. I could see his > > > > airBridge for a while, even logged into it from this end. When I did, > > I > > > > saw two of my aps and one of the other guy's. All three of them had > > > > less than 25% signal strength, so was unable to get the customer back > > > > up. We are going out there tonight when he gets home from work and > > > > changing out his antenna with one that has a tighter beam width. He > > was > > > > working fine the night before, 100% RSSI on one of our AP's, then when > > > > he got home from work last night and tried to get online, no go. I > > hope > > > > to get time today to go do some war driving and see if I can find his > > ap's. > > > > > > > > Thanks guys - I appreciate all the advice and support, > > > > Gloria > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > *From:* Tom Haynes <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:05 AM > > > > *Subject:* RE: [smartBridges] [good and bad] New aPPo from > > Singapore > > > > > > > > I hate to say play dirty but they really suck. You might accidently > > > > post their IP range and MAC addresses on here :-) > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Gloria > > Vester > > > > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:32 AM > > > > *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > *Subject:* Re: [smartBridges] [good and bad] New aPPo from > > Singapore > > > > > > > > I don't really know for sure what they are using, simpleMonitor > > > > showed me the MAC address of their ap and I looked it up and found > > > > out it is an Aironet MAC address. When we called them over a month > > > > ago to try and cooperate with them, they told us they were going to > > > > be running on channels 1, 6, & 11. We told them that we were > > > > running on channels 1, 4, 8, & 11 and asked them if they could > > > > change their channels, they basically said they would do what they > > > > want, wherever they want, and it is our problem, not theirs. Even > > > > when we told them, nicely, that we were here first, we already had > > > > customers online on those channels, they didn't give a s**t. I may > > > > be over reacting too soon, but I am going by the attitude they gave > > > > us when we talked to them. There seemed to be absolutely no > > > > interest on their part to get along or cooperate or share the > > spectrum. > > > > > > > > Gloria > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > *From:* Pascal Losier <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:09 AM > > > > *Subject:* RE: [smartBridges] [good and bad] New aPPo from > > Singapore > > > > > > > > Is the aironet of your competitor FHSS or DSSS ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------ANNOUNCEMENT---------- > > > Don't forget to register for WISPCON IV > > > http://www.wispcon.info/us/wispcon-iv/wispcon-iv.htm > > > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > smartBridges <yournickname> > > > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > > smartBridges) > > > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------ANNOUNCEMENT---------- > > Don't forget to register for WISPCON IV > > http://www.wispcon.info/us/wispcon-iv/wispcon-iv.htm > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges > > <yournickname> > > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > > smartBridges) > > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > > > > > > ----------ANNOUNCEMENT---------- > Don't forget to register for WISPCON IV > http://www.wispcon.info/us/wispcon-iv/wispcon-iv.htm > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > ----------ANNOUNCEMENT---------- Don't forget to register for WISPCON IV http://www.wispcon.info/us/wispcon-iv/wispcon-iv.htm The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org
