FYI we have the only demo NOS and NMS that you can load on a test system.
Also the code is specific to are hardware and setup.

Sincerely,  Tony Morella 
Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider 
Office: 908-996-7995 Fax: 908-847-0202
http://www.demarctech.com 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rudolph Worrell
> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 8:51 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Client Authentication
> 
> 
> Thanks Gloria.  I went to brilan.com and got the software but 
> it was a demo. (I think)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gloria Vester
> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 7:46 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Client Authentication
> 
> 
> http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-apos/reliawave-br
> ilan-wireless-
> software.html
> 
> It says "Reliawave" on the site, but it is BriLan.
> 
> Gloria
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rudolph Worrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 7:20 PM
> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Client Authentication
> 
> 
> > How do you purchase Brilan?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Laura
> > Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 12:12 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Client Authentication
> >
> >
> > Why cant Mikrotik be as easy as Brilan is? I plugged my 
> first Brilan 
> > box
> in
> > and I was up and going in literally 20 minutes. I personally think 
> > Brilan rocks for bandwidth managment. JMO Superior Wireless
> > New Orleans,La.
> > www.superior1.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Eje Gustafsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Martin Moreno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 10:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Client Authentication
> >
> >
> > > I'm not going to say anything about Brilan because I don't know 
> > > about it.. But.. Mikrotik is not a pain once you gotten 
> the GUI up 
> > > and running it is very easy if you understand TCP/IP and 
> routing. If 
> > > you don't know TCP/IP or routing then NO router os will 
> be easy. The 
> > > CLI in MikroTik if you read over the manual and learn how 
> it works 
> > > is actually very easy to work with. Any time you want to be given 
> > > your options hit tab twice type in next option then hit tab twice 
> > > again and you get the new options. It makes it really easy to do 
> > > things without knowing the commands or have a printed 
> manual. Winbox 
> > > to me at least is very self explanatory. I can't say that 
> about the 
> > > java stuff they had in 2.5 but 2.5 is years old.
> > >
> > > As for support MT might sometimes not be the quickest to 
> answer and 
> > > sometimes I know they get very frustrated especially when the one 
> > > asking for support show a lack of understanding of TCP/IP and 
> > > routing (not saying you do) which understandable can be very 
> > > frustrating because at $45 you shouldn't expect a 101 lesson in 
> > > TCP/IP or routing.
> > >
> > > Also there are other means of support. I offer paid 
> support for MT 
> > > if you need help I'm more then willing to help you out (but for a 
> > > fee of
> > > course) and often if you buy the hardware from me and you 
> need some
> > > basic help and hand holding in getting started I will try 
> my best to
> > > help you going to certain limits. On a complete router 
> that I sell for
> > > $365 don't expect to get 3-5 hours of free technical 
> support.. Sure If
> > > I would sell the same unit for $995 then I would have no problem
> > > throwing in 3-5 hours free technical support but now I sell it as
> > > cheap as possible to make it as affordable unit for everyone.
> > >
> > > As for hopes v2.8 of MikroTik has very nice bw configuration one 
> > > rule for upload and download. Heck even 2.7 if you just want to 
> > > bandwidth limit a customer don't take anything extra. Just create 
> > > one rule for up and one for down. For $45 you can hardly get much 
> > > better.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >  Eje Gustafsson                       mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > The Family Entertainment Network      http://www.fament.com
> > > Phone : 620-231-7777                  Fax   : 620-231-4066
> > >      - Your Full Time Professionals -
> > > eBay UserID : macahan
> > > ---
> > > searchable smartBridges mailing list archive. 
> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/smartbridges40part-15.org/
> > > --
> > > MM> Brilan is way easier to deal with althought the mikrotik has 
> > > MM> more
> > features but
> > > MM> Brilan will have the same by the end of the year. The brilan 
> > > MM> demo
> keep
> > in mind
> > > MM> only works for 2 hours then you have to reboot the box to get
> another
> > 2 hours I
> > > MM> found this out the hard way. It will not work well on 
> those all 
> > > MM> in
> one
> > machiens
> > > MM> like HP, Compaq etc.. I had mine up and running in 
> less then a 
> > > MM> 1/2
> > hour
> > > MM> Miktorik is a pain in the ass to set up and maintain with the 
> > > MM> gui as
> > well as
> > > MM> without the command line interface.. and trying to get support
> forget
> > ti I went
> > > MM> 3 months postig to their mail forum trying to figure 
> out how to 
> > > MM> do
> > bridge mode
> > > MM> and no one ever answered so I went to Brilan Tony is 
> awesome and
> > sometimes
> > > MM> answers at wierd hours when you least expect it which is 
> > > MM> awesome..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > MM> You have to jump throug 3-4 hoops to make a bandwidth 
> queue then 
> > > MM> mac autehntication is a pain then you haev to do 
> several other 
> > > MM> thigns to
> > throttle
> > > MM> one customer where as brilan takes abotu 2 steps and takes me 
> > > MM> less
> > then 2 min
> > > MM> to configure a user..
> > >
> > >
> > > MM> Quoting Gloria Vester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > > >> OK, can you help me figure out why the MikroTik router 
> software I
> > downloaded
> > > >> and burned to CD won't load on the box we built for it?  I have
> burned
> > the CD
> > > >> three times, downloaded the file twice, but it will not load.  
> > > >> When I
> > try to
> > > >> boot from the CD, it comes up to the first line, 
> something about
> > loading a
> > > >> kernel, then beeps and throws garbage on the screen that 
> > > >> continues
> > rolling
> > > >> until you shut it off.  We built a box with an ECS K7S5A mobo, 
> > > >> 700
> MHz
> > AMD
> > > >> proc, 3 GB HD, and standard AGP video card.  Any 
> ideas?  I have 
> > > >> been
> on
> > the
> > > >> air for over a month now with no bandwidth control, 
> even though I 
> > > >> am
> > selling
> > > >> tiered bandwidth, because I have not been able to get anything
> working.
> > I
> > > >> tried the BriLan demo and couldn't get it working, now the 
> > > >> MikroTik
> > won't
> > > >> even load.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks for any help,
> > > >> Gloria
> > > >>
> > > >>   ----- Original Message -----
> > > >>   From: Kevin Summers
> > > >>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>   Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 6:35 PM
> > > >>   Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Client Authentication
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>   The MikroTik router OS runs on just about any old PC 
> you might
> > > >>   have laying around. Throw two network cards into it 
> and you've got
> > > >>   a router.
> > > >>   Kevin Summers
> > > >>   KISTech Internet Services Inc.
> > > >>   www.kistech.com
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>     -----Original Message-----
> > > >>     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
> Sevak Avakians
> > > >>     Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:51 PM
> > > >>     To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>     Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Client Authentication
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>     Hi Kevin,
> > > >>
> > > >>     I've taken a look at MicroTik's website and it seems to be
> software
> > that
> > > >> runs on a desktop.  Is this correct or is it a 
> separate piece of
> > hardware
> > > >> similar to a Linksys or Cysco, etc. router?
> > > >>
> > > >>     Thanks,
> > > >>     Sevak
> > > >>
> > > >>     On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 19:25, Kevin Summers wrote: Actually 
> > > >> it's just the PPTP and HotSpot clients that get the DHCP 
> > > >> addresses. PPPoE clients just get their assigned IP from the 
> > > >> PPPoE login.
> > > >>
> > > >> The MikroTik router actually handles the HotSpot login page. 
> > > >> Through the use of Firewall rules we've set things up 
> to allow a 
> > > >> link from the HotSpot login page to a secure page on our web 
> > > >> server so that people can sign up.
> > > >>
> > > >> Kevin Summers
> > > >> KISTech Internet Services Inc.
> > > >> www.kistech.com
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dennis 
> > > >> > Burgess
> > > >> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:14 PM
> > > >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Client Authentication
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Kevin,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Question,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Why do you need to give your clients a DHCP IP ?  The PPPOE 
> > > >> > does
> that
> > > >> > already correct? Also, using the hotspot stuff, if a 
> custoemer
> > assoicates
> > > >> > with one of my APs, could i setup a way so that they 
> could only 
> > > >> > get
> > to my
> > > >> > webserver?  or a speical page saying, you can get 
> our signal ??
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Dennis
> > > >> >
> > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> > From: "Kevin Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >> > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:23 PM
> > > >> > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Client Authentication
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > We're using the MikroTik Router OS for PPTP, PPPoE, and 
> > > >> > > HotSpot authentication using username and password. No WEP 
> > > >> > > encryption on any of the network. If it's so insecure, why 
> > > >> > > take the performance hit. Can't do WEP when doing HotSpot 
> > > >> > > anyway...
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Radios and such are on private static IPs, customers get a
> private
> > > >> > > DHCP IP until they log in, then they are given 
> either their 
> > > >> > > NATed private DHCP IP, or their public static IP.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Kevin Summers
> > > >> > > KISTech Internet Services Inc.
> > > >> > > www.kistech.com
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > >> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf 
> Of Rudolph
> > Worrell
> > > >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:08 PM
> > > >> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >> > > > Subject: [smartBridges] Client Authentication
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > How do you authenticate your customers?  I am 
> simply suing 
> > > >> > > > WEP
> > and a
> > > >> > DHCP
> > > >> > > > server.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > How many IP's do you have in your IP pool?  I 
> have 1000 but 
> > > >> > > > I
> am
> > > >> > > > not sure it
> > > >> > > > will be enough when I get up to about 250 customers.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > I use a separate IP scheme for the CPE and backhuals and 
> > > >> > > > this
> > works
> > > >> > fine.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Anyone else doing this?
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > --
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> > > >> > > > President
> > > >> > > > Phone:(540)664-3950
> > > >> > > > Fax:(270)458-6431
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