That is a long time until then. I and I think MikroTik is late in bringing this to us.
Best regards, Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com Phone : 620-231-7777 Fax : 620-231-4066 - Your Full Time Professionals - eBay UserID : macahan --- searchable smartBridges mailing list archive. http://www.mail-archive.com/smartbridges40part-15.org/ -- t> There will be a new product out by the end of the year that will do this t> plus much more. t> Sincerely, Tony Morella t> Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider t> Office: 908-996-7995 Fax: 908-847-0202 t> http://www.demarctech.com >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson >> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 1:40 AM >> To: Joe Laura >> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Client Authentication >> >> >> IMO it is. >> >> Takes me less then 15minutes from a clean drive until I have >> MikroTik installed and working (doing routing or masquerading). >> >> Does Brilan offer you ability to bandwidth limit peer to peer >> networking traffic such as kazaa ? MikroTik 2.8 does give you >> that option. This has been IMO a extremely big drawback with >> MikroTik since when it come to peer to peer that is where you >> really need it and all the peer to peer products out there >> are really sneaky and if you block their default port they >> will either start using port 80 or just start picking random >> ports so the only way you can do bandwidth shaping on them is >> by doing layer 7 filtering with signature recognition. >> >> Best regards, >> Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com >> Phone : 620-231-7777 Fax : 620-231-4066 >> - Your Full Time Professionals - >> MikroTik OEM - online store http://www.fament.net/ >> -- >> JL> Why cant Mikrotik be as easy as Brilan is? I plugged my >> first Brilan >> JL> box in and I was up and going in literally 20 minutes. I >> personally >> JL> think Brilan rocks for bandwidth managment. JMO Superior Wireless >> JL> New Orleans,La. >> JL> www.superior1.com >> JL> ----- Original Message ----- >> JL> From: "Eje Gustafsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> JL> To: "Martin Moreno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> JL> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 10:51 PM >> JL> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Client Authentication >> >> >> >> I'm not going to say anything about Brilan because I don't >> know about >> >> it.. But.. Mikrotik is not a pain once you gotten the GUI up and >> >> running it is very easy if you understand TCP/IP and >> routing. If you >> >> don't know TCP/IP or routing then NO router os will be >> easy. The CLI >> >> in MikroTik if you read over the manual and learn how it works is >> >> actually very easy to work with. Any time you want to be >> given your >> >> options hit tab twice type in next option then hit tab twice again >> >> and you get the new options. It makes it really easy to do things >> >> without knowing the commands or have a printed manual. >> Winbox to me >> >> at least is very self explanatory. I can't say that about the java >> >> stuff they had in 2.5 but 2.5 is years old. >> >> >> >> As for support MT might sometimes not be the quickest to >> answer and >> >> sometimes I know they get very frustrated especially when the one >> >> asking for support show a lack of understanding of TCP/IP >> and routing >> >> (not saying you do) which understandable can be very frustrating >> >> because at $45 you shouldn't expect a 101 lesson in TCP/IP or >> >> routing. >> >> >> >> Also there are other means of support. I offer paid >> support for MT if >> >> you need help I'm more then willing to help you out (but >> for a fee of >> >> course) and often if you buy the hardware from me and you >> need some >> >> basic help and hand holding in getting started I will try >> my best to >> >> help you going to certain limits. On a complete router that I sell >> >> for $365 don't expect to get 3-5 hours of free technical support.. >> >> Sure If I would sell the same unit for $995 then I would have no >> >> problem throwing in 3-5 hours free technical support but >> now I sell >> >> it as cheap as possible to make it as affordable unit for everyone. >> >> >> >> As for hopes v2.8 of MikroTik has very nice bw >> configuration one rule >> >> for upload and download. Heck even 2.7 if you just want to >> bandwidth >> >> limit a customer don't take anything extra. Just create >> one rule for >> >> up and one for down. For $45 you can hardly get much better. >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com >> >> Phone : 620-231-7777 Fax : 620-231-4066 >> >> - Your Full Time Professionals - >> >> eBay UserID : macahan >> >> --- >> >> searchable smartBridges mailing list archive. >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/smartbridges40part-15.org/ >> >> -- >> >> MM> Brilan is way easier to deal with althought the >> mikrotik has more >> JL> features but >> >> MM> Brilan will have the same by the end of the year. The >> brilan demo >> >> MM> keep >> JL> in mind >> >> MM> only works for 2 hours then you have to reboot the box to get >> >> MM> another >> JL> 2 hours I >> >> MM> found this out the hard way. It will not work well on >> those all >> >> MM> in one >> JL> machiens >> >> MM> like HP, Compaq etc.. I had mine up and running in less then a >> >> MM> 1/2 >> JL> hour >> >> MM> Miktorik is a pain in the ass to set up and maintain >> with the gui >> >> MM> as >> JL> well as >> >> MM> without the command line interface.. and trying to get support >> >> MM> forget >> JL> ti I went >> >> MM> 3 months postig to their mail forum trying to figure >> out how to >> >> MM> do >> JL> bridge mode >> >> MM> and no one ever answered so I went to Brilan Tony is >> awesome and >> JL> sometimes >> >> MM> answers at wierd hours when you least expect it which is >> >> MM> awesome.. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> MM> You have to jump throug 3-4 hoops to make a bandwidth >> queue then >> >> MM> mac autehntication is a pain then you haev to do several other >> >> MM> thigns to >> JL> throttle >> >> MM> one customer where as brilan takes abotu 2 steps and takes me >> >> MM> less >> JL> then 2 min >> >> MM> to configure a user.. >> >> >> >> >> >> MM> Quoting Gloria Vester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> >> >> >> OK, can you help me figure out why the MikroTik router >> software I >> JL> downloaded >> >> >> and burned to CD won't load on the box we built for it? I have >> >> >> burned >> JL> the CD >> >> >> three times, downloaded the file twice, but it will not load. >> >> >> When I >> JL> try to >> >> >> boot from the CD, it comes up to the first line, something about >> JL> loading a >> >> >> kernel, then beeps and throws garbage on the screen >> that continues >> JL> rolling >> >> >> until you shut it off. We built a box with an ECS >> K7S5A mobo, 700 >> >> >> MHz >> JL> AMD >> >> >> proc, 3 GB HD, and standard AGP video card. Any ideas? I have >> >> >> been on >> JL> the >> >> >> air for over a month now with no bandwidth control, >> even though I >> >> >> am >> JL> selling >> >> >> tiered bandwidth, because I have not been able to get anything >> >> >> working. >> JL> I >> >> >> tried the BriLan demo and couldn't get it working, now the >> >> >> MikroTik >> JL> won't >> >> >> even load. >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for any help, >> >> >> Gloria >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> From: Kevin Summers >> >> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 6:35 PM >> >> >> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Client Authentication >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The MikroTik router OS runs on just about any old PC you might >> >> >> have laying around. Throw two network cards into it >> and you've got >> >> >> a router. >> >> >> Kevin Summers >> >> >> KISTech Internet Services Inc. >> >> >> www.kistech.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of >> Sevak Avakians >> >> >> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:51 PM >> >> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Client Authentication >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi Kevin, >> >> >> >> >> >> I've taken a look at MicroTik's website and it seems to be >> >> >> software >> JL> that >> >> >> runs on a desktop. Is this correct or is it a separate piece of >> JL> hardware >> >> >> similar to a Linksys or Cysco, etc. router? >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> Sevak >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 19:25, Kevin Summers wrote: Actually >> >> >> it's just the PPTP and HotSpot clients that get the DHCP >> >> >> addresses. PPPoE clients just get their assigned IP >> from the PPPoE >> >> >> login. >> >> >> >> >> >> The MikroTik router actually handles the HotSpot login page. >> >> >> Through the use of Firewall rules we've set things up >> to allow a >> >> >> link from the HotSpot login page to a secure page on our web >> >> >> server so that people can sign up. >> >> >> >> >> >> Kevin Summers >> >> >> KISTech Internet Services Inc. >> >> >> www.kistech.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> >> >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dennis >> >> >> > Burgess >> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:14 PM >> >> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Client Authentication >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Kevin, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Question, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Why do you need to give your clients a DHCP IP ? The >> PPPOE does >> >> >> > that already correct? Also, using the hotspot stuff, if a >> >> >> > custoemer >> JL> assoicates >> >> >> > with one of my APs, could i setup a way so that they >> could only >> >> >> > get >> JL> to my >> >> >> > webserver? or a speical page saying, you can get our >> signal ?? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Dennis >> >> >> > >> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> > From: "Kevin Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:23 PM >> >> >> > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Client Authentication >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > We're using the MikroTik Router OS for PPTP, PPPoE, and >> >> >> > > HotSpot authentication using username and password. No WEP >> >> >> > > encryption on any of the network. If it's so insecure, why >> >> >> > > take the performance hit. Can't do WEP when doing HotSpot >> >> >> > > anyway... >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > Radios and such are on private static IPs, customers get a >> >> >> > > private DHCP IP until they log in, then they are >> given either >> >> >> > > their NATed private DHCP IP, or their public static IP. >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > Kevin Summers >> >> >> > > KISTech Internet Services Inc. >> >> >> > > www.kistech.com >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> >> >> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf >> Of Rudolph >> JL> Worrell >> >> >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:08 PM >> >> >> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> > > > Subject: [smartBridges] Client Authentication >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > How do you authenticate your customers? I am >> simply suing >> >> >> > > > WEP >> JL> and a >> >> >> > DHCP >> >> >> > > > server. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > How many IP's do you have in your IP pool? I >> have 1000 but >> >> >> > > > I am not sure it will be enough when I get up to >> about 250 >> >> >> > > > customers. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > I use a separate IP scheme for the CPE and backhuals and >> >> >> > > > this >> JL> works >> >> >> > fine. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > Anyone else doing this? >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > -- >> >> >> > > > Rudolph Worrell >> >> >> > > > President >> >> >> > > > Phone:(540)664-3950 >> >> >> > > > Fax:(270)458-6431 >> >> >> > > > www.wave2net.com >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> > > > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ >> >> >> > > > ----------ANNOUNCEMENT---------- >> >> >> > > > Don't forget to register for WISPCON IV >> >> >> > > > http://www.wispcon.info/us/wispcon-iv/wispcon-iv.htm >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List >> >> >> > > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type >> >> >> > 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