QYEs I am sure that this i swhat the problem is that users close p force the radio to 11 meg and are doing WELL! but the poor uers out beyond the range of 11 meg cant get a solid stable link to do 11 meg and will oly have good thruput at 1 meg which the radio wont do because it is always active on 1 meg most the time unless no one else is online which seems to be the cae. I think like I said a ways bakc that I will have to set up more POPS closer to my furthest customers to compensate for this issue..
uoting Colorado Wisp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > I have not followed the entire thread, but here is what we set the aB CPE > at: > > Frag Threshold: 1066 > RTS Threshold: 256 > > IP of the CPE is static private (192.168.5.X), full class c subent and > 0.0.0.0 for the gateway. Data rate is set at 1 Mbps. We only offer 512 > service, so no need to run any higher. > > Our APPO are set at: > > Fragmentation: 2346 > RTS/CTS: 2346 > > All data rates are checked on the APPO, static private IP... > > Could your problem be that the CPE radios are connecting a different speeds > and the APPO is always busy changing data rates to talk to the various > CPEs? > > Try that... > Chris > > --- > Colorado WISP llc. http://www.cowisp.net > Bringing high speed internet to rural communities. > P.O. Box 55 > Wellington, Colorado 80549 > 970-218-5295 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 3:01 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > I also forgot to mention I throttled the one big user down to 100kbps and > same think its like it has a hold on the APPO at 11 megs (5.5) and wont > let > anything else talk to it?? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Blazen Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 2:59 PM > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > Okay this slow down is really killing me I have all users turned off that > appear to be sending any kind of arp but this was not what was causing the > slowdowns. I have two users on right now one downloading at 700kbps and the > other one my slow customer just trying to surf and cant due it due to ping > rates we beyond out of control 300-400 and packet loss. > > I turn off the one customer who is downloading and the problem resolves. I > called the customer downloading and they are doing Microsoft patches on > their machines right now so its not a virus. What gives why can one person > not taking up the full bandwidth screw the whole system I mean every one > else is at a dead stand still?? > > To me this is a problem in the radio APPO not being able to talk to two > radios at the same time at two different speeds this thing is totally just > sh**ing all over itself? > > Anyone else see this happen I had the APPO set to 1 meg only 2 meg and 5.5 > and also 11 but nothing seems to help! I have RTS set to 800 on the clients > and that made no difference I give up this customer wants me to come pull > the equipment.. > > Any ideas? > HELP! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Radabaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 6:02 PM > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > This can get tricky. You need to be on a port that sees all of the traffic > - read that as 'not a switch port'. By definition a switch will only show > you packets destined for your computer. > > If you really want to see what going on you need a hub or a managed switch > that can replicate all traffic onto a port. > > Another option is to use a wireless card in promiscious mode - a mode where > you see all of the traffic. Ethereal will do this with (I think) most > common wireless cards. > > Mark Radabaugh > Amplex > (419) 720-3635 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pascal Losier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 5:41 PM > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > > > > Just a small question, > > > > When running ethereal, Do you run it directly on the router > > (ex.Mikrotik) or on any system connected to the router. > > > > Also does it matter if the system running ethereal is log via PPPOE > > ???? > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 6:12 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > > > > HAHA well then my router has the virus I get like over 2000 arp > > request from the router in less then 20 min which I think is way out > > of control it always is asking who has what IP etc. I was told this is > > normal in order for the router to know what IP has what mac etc.. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Scott Damron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 12:15 PM > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > > > > A WHOLE bunch of arp requests. If you run ethereal, you would see > > upwards of 30 or 40% ARP requests. Some of the viruses cause ARP > > storms. > > > > Scott > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 12:09 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > > > > What do you mean check arp I know how to check it but what am I > > looking for?? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Scott Damron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:37 AM > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > > > > Check ARP. > > > > Scott > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:17 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > > > > I have done that already and there is no ICMP other then me pinging > > the radios It doesn't happen when there is no one online it only > > happens when a few close users get on and start to surf and then the > > far users have a hard time with dropped packets and slow speeds and > > high pings. I just thing I need to open up another AP closer to them > > and keep my distance down to under 5 miles. The one person having the > > hardest time is about 5.6 miles which is closer then my 7.2 mile > > customer who is doing great and pointed at the same radio APPO. It > > might just be this person is in a bad area with more interference is > > what I am thinking and I also may need to raise her ant a smidge.. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:47 AM > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > > > > Every time I've experienced interference (numerous times), it hasn't > > affected ping times. From what I've seen, it usually causes lost > > packets, but not high latency. I don't know if anyone has mentioned > > this before (I jumped in in the middle of this thread), but what > > you're describing sounds exactly like something I experienced a few > > weeks ago. I had about six users with the Welchia virus, and they were > > causing high latency all over the network. If you haven't done it > > already, put a packet sniffer on the network, and see if you're seeing > > a lot of icmp echo traffic. > > > > Craig > > > > > > Quoting Blazen Wireless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > Well maybe this is not the problem now I am back to the same issues > > > pings up to over 100ms and it seems now more with radios that never > > > had problems before I am thinking more of interference now? How many > > > of you have seen a drastic increase in SOHO wireless routers popping > > > up on your site survey tab when setting up a customer, I s**t you > > > not one the other day had 11 > > that > > > all > > > said linksys or the default ssid for dlink stuff. Are those > > manufacturers > > > within spec it seems more and more are popping up and some with > > > better > > > > > signal then my tower according to the site survey numbers in the ABO > > /ABI > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Scott Damron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:07 AM > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > > > > > > > Actually, it does not really drop everyone down to 1meg, it just > > > _MAY_ > > > > > slow down the 11meg folks in order to respond to the 1meg person. > > > Hope > > > > > that makes sense. > > > > > > Scott > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Wirefree > > > Network > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:08 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > > > > > > > Huh!??!? This seems bass ackwards. If one client associates at 1 > > > Meg, it drops everyone down to that speed. Not the other way > > > around. Weakest link theory. If a client can not associate at 11 > > > Meg and steps it's way down to 1 Meg, then it CAN NOT be forced to > > > connect at 11 Meg. However, a client who is close in with 100% RSSI, > > > could be stepped down to 1 Meg based on some far out client. > > > > > > Sully > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:56 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > > > > I have throttling in place now thats not the issue. The issue is in > > > my > > > > > opinion and theory is at what rate the radios associate at.. If they > > > are only associating at 1 meg or less then yes you will have > > > throughput problems, if I have all my close customers able to > > > associate at 11 megs > > > (5.5) and my furthest customers only at 1 meg ( 500kbps) then the > > > further users are not going to be able to associate at 1 meg but > > > will > > be > > > forced to associate at 11 megs and since that is not a stable link > > they > > > will suffer as I kind of proved tonight but cant be 100% sure unless > > > I > > > > > could verify what speed the users radios are associating at to the > > > AP. > > > > > In theory the AP cant be associated to 3 to 4 radios all at > > > different speeds. They will be associated at the speed of the > > > slowest radio or > > the > > > fastest depending on what radio has the best link I think? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Vasu (sB Tech Team) > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:27 PM > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > > > > That's the basics of 802.11 std, when one user hogs the entire > > > bandwidth the remaining users have to share the bandwidth, hence > > > bandwidth throttling is important to ensure good and stable links to > > > all users, I think the XO series access point should solve your > > > problem which can provide dedicated bandwidth to every user. > > > > > > Vasu > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 2:02 PM > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > > Subject: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > > > > Okay I think I have figured out the problem with my system. It seems > > > that when users are one (close users) they are associated to the > > > APPO at 5.5 to 11 megs possibly and the users that are further away > > > are at 1 meg max well if you have the near users at 11 megs tying up > > > the radio and the far uses cant connect at a slower speed for a > > > better link / speed quality then the far users suffer? am I correct > > > in my theory does that make any sense? > > > > > > So going forward we are going to have to plan some more sites closer > > > to the users having issues etc Has anyone else experienced this. I > > > cant verify 100% that this is true due to the fact the radios don't > > > report what speed they are associated at? 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