Well, let me get the porice right (I quoted from memory really poorly).. 
Its $375 for a single outlet device, pager service is $9 per month.  As 
far as auto-re-boot.  I personally don't like systems auto hard booting.  
No that with AirBridge units, this may be prefered and necessary ;).  But 
I hate auto cycling Trango's and Cisco units.  They are too solid to go 
down without some reason being there and I prefer some fact finding 
before that solution is used.

But to each his own.. (We do page our tech's though with a ping at the 
device at the NOC.. do it for any time a device has a packet loss 
increase for more than 15 minutes...

Scott



-----Original Message-----
From: "The Wirefree Network" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:53:30 -0800
Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Remote Power Reset Hardware

> I see your point.  You are speaking of equipment at repeater locations.
> 
> I have all the reboot equipment at my NOC (thus far).
> 
> I agree that IP can not be the ONLY way of doing a hard reboot (in the
> event
> that the connection between NOC and repeater location is down).  This
> is
> VERY important actually.
> 
> So...what are the reboot options?
> 1. IP reboot (web based)
> 2. Phone line (telnet or touch-tone)
> 3. Pager
> 4. Auto Reboot equipment (w/ping software locally)
> 
> I am currently using options 4 with 2 as backup at my NOC.
> 
> At a repeater location I still like the ability to take care of this
> with
> ZERO technician assistance.  With COST at the fore-front.  So...I am
> obviously not going to run phone lines.
> 
> Therefore, instead of putting both 1 and 3 at the repeater, I would
> just put
> option 3.  I would then setup my PING software to initiate the PAGER
> reboot
> if it becomes unresponsive.
> 
> Whooppss...one more thought.  The Nighthawk rings in at $700+.  But the
> iBoot (self contained 1-port autorebooter w/web interface also) rings
> in at
> just $275.00.
> 
> Back to option 4 at my repeaters.  I can get away with just 2 iBoot's =
> $550.00 (discounts available for multiple units).  I would just plug 1
> radio
> into each iBoot (2 radios).  Then set them up to ping through the
> device to
> a distant end device....when fails, reboot.
> 
> I do like that.
> 
> RECAP:
> NOC location = Option 4 with 2 as backup
> Repeater locations = Options 4 and 1
> 
> Any comments???
> 
> Sully
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of shoffman
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:03 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Remote Power Reset Hardware
> 
> I see, but if the NOC looses communication with the remote sites... 
> The 
> what? (i.e. aren't you still reliant upon the RF network to get the 
> signal to the re-boot device?)  Thats why I like the Nighthawk stuff.. 
> 900 MHz pages normnally get through...
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "The Wirefree Network" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:07:02 -0800
> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Remote Power Reset Hardware
> 
> > My solution uses software on my server to do the ping check and then
> > send
> > the reboot command out the serial port.
> > 
> > I worked with this company to provide a reboot solution for POE units
> > as
> > well.
> > 
> > Sully
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of shoffman
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:55 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Remote Power Reset Hardware
> > 
> > Hmmm...
> > 
> > I like that idea!  May need a mix of both.  (Our cisco boxes can get 
> > flaky, in that they continue to operate, and respond to traffic (i.e.
> > pings etc..) but sometimes lock us out of Telnet/SSH/Web based 
> > management.  (Funky huh).  Guess its like using what's left of its
> > brain 
> > for important systems first (i.e. like keeping customer working). 
> But 
> > leaves us no choice but to hard cycle.. and I like the pager ability
> to
> > do that without going to the field....
> > 
> > Scott
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "The Wirefree Network" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:09:39 -0800
> > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Remote Power Reset Hardware
> > 
> > > This is what I use: http://www.cpscom.com/reboot.htm
> > > 
> > > Much cheaper solution.  I have it setup to AUTO reboot any unit
> that
> > > does
> > > not respond to a ping and heartbeat on my server (in case it
> hangs).
> > > 
> > > Sully 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > On Behalf Of shoffman
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 5:46 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Remote Power Reset Hardware
> > > 
> > > Actually I have one better.  A company called Nighthawk systems. 
> Due
> > > the 
> > > same thing, but off a pager signal.  (i.e. I can page the unit). 
> And
> > > at 
> > > $9/month for paging, thats cheaper then a phone line, and the unit
> is
> > > like $700 each (depending on the number of outlets you have). 
> > Getting 
> > > ours installed in November.. will keep you posted.
> > > 
> > > Scott
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: "Blazen Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 14:55:13 -0800
> > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Remote Power Reset Hardware
> > > 
> > > > MessageThese run $749 each the difference between the 3401 and
> 3402
> > > one
> > > > is for international  and USA and the other is just plain US
> market
> > I
> > > > guess it has to do with the outlet setup. They also said the
> power
> > > cord
> > > > is separate 010-9334 price on that $14 Each for a 110 AC plug but
> > > from
> > > > the pics looks like a standard PC or monitor style plug so if it
> is
> > I
> > > > am sure someone has extra ones laying around. This price does
> come
> > > with
> > > > the Ethernet and the serial connections built in. Not to bad of a
> > > price
> > > > still kind of steep....
> > > > 
> > > > FYI I called and got this info just a few min ago..
> > > > 
> > > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > >   From: Jason 
> > > >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > >   Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 2:40 PM
> > > >   Subject: [smartBridges] Remote Power Reset Hardware
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >   I just saw this browser controlled 8 outlet AC power controller
> > on
> > > > the back cover of Remote Site & Equipment Management magazine.
> > > > 
> > > >   I don't know anything about it, but thought ya'll might be
> > > > interested:
> > > > 
> > > >   http://www.pulizzi.com/ipc
> > > > 
> > > >   Jason
> > > > 
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