Sounds like the radios are desensing each other. Bet the performance on one sector would change radicly if you turned off the other radio. I suspect you do not have enough isolation between the two antennas. Might also want to consider tuned bandpass filters on each antenna to keep the other radio out of it.
JH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blazen Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > Here is something strange I have been pulling my hair our trying to figure > why when I change both my APPO's to the same channel it gets a lot better > signal? > > I have both the north sector and south sector set to chan 7 right now and it > works great but when I switch one or the other to separate channels the > signal seems to either interfere or get worse for the clients? > > I was going to move the sectors further apart, I cant put them where one is > above the other due to the constraints of the owner of the property... > > They are aprox 5 ft apart right now and are 95* pac wireless H pol sectors.. > I was going to move them about 20 ft part and face them further away from > each other. I think when we initially did this we put some overlap in > there.. > > Anyone have any ideas? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 8:37 AM > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > > The nice thing about the CB3 is that it allows SNMP, Telnet, and Web > interaction. That's a lot more than most. I'm not endorsing setting up an > uncertified system, but there comes a point when you have to try something > in order to keep your customers. We've used some other radios that didn't > have the distance that these radios do, but for those that were able to > connect > to the other radios, they were able to get between 3.0 and 3.9 megabit > unthrottled from our NOC. Since the SB gear has been in place we've been > able to get some very long distances, but the throughput has dropped to > the point that I've not seen anything over 2 megabit. > > I fought with a link 4.5 miles away from one of our towers for 3 months. I > was > using an ABO. I changed the radio several times, I tried 4 different > antennas, > I replaced all the cabling, and when I lost the bigger of the three clients > in the > building I gave up. I ordered a CB3 from Eje and the day after it arrived I > set it > up. The link has been rock solid ever since. One customer worth $129.95 a > month could have been saved by a $150 CB3 if I had bought it a month > earlier. > > Unless you want to lose all of your customers, and go out of business, and > take the chance of getting sued by one of your business clients because your > lack of service costs them money. Get something else. Try it. If it works, > so > much the better. > > >From everything I'm hearing, SB had great gear prior to the change in the > Atmel chipset and the production line changes. For whatever reason some of > the quality has changed, and for those WISPs that are hanging on by a > thread in these tough times, they can't sit and wait for a fix while the > customers > are down. MikroTik and the cards they sell seem to be the ticket, and it > would > be nice to have 2.4GHz AP and 5.8GHz backhaul in the same box. :-) > > <disclaimer> > The opinions expressed above are from a frustrated and stressed out > WISP who has been working with wireless for 3 years now. Take the > tone of the message with a grain of salt (or spoon of sugar) and realize > that the tone is simply a reflection of frustration. Nothing more. > </disclaimer> > > Kevin Summers > KISTech Internet Services Inc. > www.kistech.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of shoffman > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 7:56 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > As you can see from my reasons NOT to go CB3, I am not Pro Smartbridge > for an AP, but I do find it amazing that a WISP or ISP of any kind would > rely on a device that can only do Web Interface control. Maybe I am too > big to believe that an AP at least must have two paths for management > (i.e. ethernet counts as one, terminal connection (serial) being the > other; I don't count RF since I am a bit too far away from most towers to > get to them quickly).... > > Additionally, what external antenna's have been FCC certified for the CB3? > > Scott > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Pascal Losier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:37:48 -0400 > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > We seem to be a couple WISP that are leaving smartbridge for AP. > > > > CB3 look like a better alternative at much better cost. > > > > How long have you guys use Smartbridges before realizing what was > > happenning ???? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Summers > > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 7:58 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > > > > Contact Eje and order one of the Engenious APs and a NEMA box > > from him. It's a 100mW AP and probably will overcome quite a few > > of your problems. As soon as I can dig myself out of this financial > > hole that we're in because of having to mess with stuff all the time > > that's what we're going to do. > > > > That said I think I'll be leaving the list. There's no point in staying > > here if I'm not going to use the product anymore, and the XO and > > Nexus are outside of our current price range. > > > > Best of luck everyone. > > > > Kevin Summers > > KISTech Internet Services Inc. > > www.kistech.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Blazen Wireless > > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 3:17 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > > > > We give up! > > We cant add any more users to our system total of 60 split between 2 > > APPO's 30 each at max. We added 2 more today and now we have hardly any > > users downloading and best we can do is about 300KBPS down... This > > SUCKS! is it possibly due to all the smoke in the air which I would > > find > > hard to believe BUT you never know. > > > > What's the deal with the XO stuff is it done it sure could be nice to > > have one to test and see if it is worth $900.. I am very frustrated at > > not being able to figure this out. It all points back to the radios > > (APPO's) not being able to process all the associated radios to it? I > > change the SSID so only a few people 10-12 can associate to the APPO > > and > > there is NO pro problems. I allow all the users to associate to the > > APPO > > and WHAM crap city throughput goes to hell pings skyrocket just with > > one > > user surfing on and off.. how can this NOT point to the radios > > inability > > to keep up? Why would just idle radios associated to the APPO have such > > a bad effect on the APPO? > > > > I have 6 users ready to cancel due to the crappy service I am getting > > from these radios I don't understand how someone else claims 60 plus > > users on ONE APPO and they are fine? what speeds are you offering what > > are your settings on the APPO and the clients associated to it. What > > ant > > are you using? any amps etc etc.. > > > > > > > > > > Martin & Steve > > Blazen Wireless > > > > www.blazenwireless.com > > > > > > ----------ANNOUNCEMENT---------- > Don't forget to register for WISPCON IV > http://www.wispcon.info/us/wispcon-iv/wispcon-iv.htm > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > smartBridges <yournickname> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > smartBridges) > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > ----------ANNOUNCEMENT---------- > Don't forget to register for WISPCON IV > http://www.wispcon.info/us/wispcon-iv/wispcon-iv.htm > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > smartBridges <yournickname> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > smartBridges) > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > > ----------ANNOUNCEMENT---------- > Don't forget to register for WISPCON IV > http://www.wispcon.info/us/wispcon-iv/wispcon-iv.htm > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org ----------ANNOUNCEMENT---------- Don't forget to register for WISPCON IV http://www.wispcon.info/us/wispcon-iv/wispcon-iv.htm The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org
