Hello DanielI would like to get GNOME 3,KDE Plasma 5 and MATE up & running via prefix. pkgsrc MATE has failed to run on my desktop PC running XStreamOS, with the MATE panel does not load at all.A lot of the other pkgsrc desktops such as XFCE run well. I am currently given up using Windows 7 as well, the goal being to see how far illumos can go as a primary desktop/workstation OS.Its sometimes a struggle to get something up and running, but i feel its worth it as the results of these can be shared later for the benefit of the illumos community at large.It would be good to have an illumos desktop/workstation documentation project, possibly under the illumos foundation,since most of the distros share the common base.CheersKarthikFrom: "Daniel Kontsek" <[email protected]>Sent: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 02:23:01To: [email protected]: Re: [smartos-discuss] [smartos-discuss] [smartos-discuss] AMD Ryzen 7 SupportHi Karthik, This is actually really interesting. I used to be a huge fan of Gentoo back in the days; drobbins FTW :) After I switched to enterprise Linux distros I kept portage prefix on my OS X for a long time. I have to say that for a developer/unix admin, portage is a great package manager on a workstation. It is good to hear that Gentoo Prefix works in illumos. Daniel On 30 Jul 2017, at 20:30, karthik <[email protected]> wrote: Hi DanielYes one can use other illumos distros which are more suitable for desktops. I use one of them: XStreamOS. I regularly use Xfce,WindowMaker and KDE 3.5 on my /opt/local on XStreamOS. SmartOS is a hypervisor,its best used that way. I have successfully manually bootstrapped upto stage 3 of gentoo prefix on it using the instructions in the below link:https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Prefix/Manual_BootstrapWhy gentoo prefix ? This is another source of packages for my desktop, including things like KDE Plasma 5 desktop, which is not present in pkgsrc stable(Its only present in wip, which is an unstable branch).The native IPS package set of XStreamOS provides me with Firefox,LibreOffice,Wine,VLC and other essential applications,so I dont miss these in pkgsrc.CheersKarthikFrom: "Daniel Kontsek" <[email protected]>Sent: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 13:17:59To: [email protected]: Re: [smartos-discuss] [smartos-discuss] AMD Ryzen 7 SupportHello,technically it is not a problem to install Xorg + some desktop environment on SmartOS (in the global zone).We have a SmartOS-based compute node with /opt/local pkgsrc in place (the OS can be optionally installed on hard drive) [1]. We have successfully installed and used a minimal fluxbox, icewm and xfce4 desktop environments.However, the quantity and quality of graphical applications in smartos’ pkgsrc is probably low. For example you can install firefox but the binary won’t start.To use fluxbox you can just do:$ pkgin install modular-xorg-server xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-mouse xf86-video-vesa xinit xterm fluxbox$ cat > ~/.xinitrc << EOF#!/usr/bin/bashfluxboxEOF$ startxAnother cool thing you can do is to create a Linux (K)VM with graphical environment and all your favourite apps on your SmartOS host. Then enable remote X11 connections [2] in the Linux guest and on SmartOS run a X11 client: /opt/local/bin/Xorg -query $DESKTOP_IP :1It is not an ideal desktop (e.g. you want have access to USB ports in the host), but I can imagine that for doing development in Eclipse it would work. A CentOS 7 image with Gnome is available here: https://images.erigones.org/appliances/contrib-centos7-desktop/(KVM will not work on AMD)But there are definitely other illumos distributions, which are more suitable for desktops.Daniel[1] https://wiki.smartos.org/display/DOC/Installing pkgin[2] https://github.com/erigones/esdc-factory/blob/master/ansible/roles/contrib-centos7-desktop/tasks/main.yml#L57> On 27 Jul 2017, at 20:27, a b <[email protected]> wrote:>>> Can SmartOS be used at all as a workstation for web app>> development,say for java/php development with Eclipse? AFAIK we>> can use it as a live image booted off CD/USB with everything in>> memory, except for /opt . This is akin to a liveCD of linux like>> Knoppix. I do some of my personal web development on illumos but>> I use XStreamOS which has a desktop version. So for XStreamOS,>> apart from the native IPS package set, I have options of Joyent's>> pkgsrc,OpenCSW or gentoo prefix as package sets.>> Unfortunately not, as SmartOS is a hypervisor most similar to> VMware ESXi.>> What you could do is run a joyent-branded zone inside of SmartOS> with X libraries and one of the X window managers, but you'd need> an X server to bring the display back to, defeating the purpose> of running SmartOS as a desktop, since you'd need another desktop> to do that.>> You can of course run a web server with PHP and do your> development on SmartOS in vi(1) or vim(1), or bring an integrated> development environment's display over to your X server (your> desktop).>> SmartOS is a cloud hypervisor for running servers. It's purposely> designed to do that, and do it well. 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