Well... #1.) It's apparent that you have never flown full scale.
#2.) I do not want to do away with landings. I want to do away with the 100 point system that allows a pilot to make a bad decision in the air while SOARING and make up for it with a good LANDING. #3.) It's apparent you've never flown full scale. #4.) Look in the rule book...it's called R/C Soaring...not R/C Sailplane Landing. #5.) Did I mention that it's apparent you've never flown full scale? #6.) Current landing rules encourage nose-first dork landings, because the only way to keep from dragging a wingtip is to stay a foot off the ground, and pop the nose straight down. You can crow all you want about being in full control of your model, but this boy ain't buyin' it. I did a bit of experimenting last time I was out and if I tried flair landings, right on target, I always hit that little clump of grass with 1 wing that spun me off the line. If I came in a touch high and popped the nose down, it was boink, right there. #7.) You really should go fly some full scale if you are going to expound on it. You apparently never have. Don't land it like a typical R/C landing, though. Those things are EXPENSIVE!!! #8.) I am in FAVOR of leaving the landings in as a tie breaker. If you come to a contest I run, don't expect to have 100 point landings. DO expect to have to use your soaring capabilities. If I come to your contest, whatever the task is, I'll do it and not complain. #9.) If you go full scale flying with me, puke in your shoe...do NOT puke in the glider...:^)... I'd say that I was stepping down off my soapbox about now, but I got into a pissin' match last time I said that....so... Rabidly against 100 point landings as always, Jack Womack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Imagine, I've had some time to consider the subject > (driving miles and in > motels rooms:) and to talk it over with some of the > smartest and best TD pilots > in the Midsouth.... > > The current whine about spot landings are completely > wrong...at least their > justifier is wrong. > > Every guy who complains about trick landings, or > point landings of all kinds > use the inarguable fact that full size sailplanes > don't do those kind of > landings... but they DO! In fact its mandatory with > EVERY full size sailplane > landing! > > One argument was that a guy gets all his time in the > air (such a skilled air > reader:-) but comes in for the landing, hangs a wing > tip (must have been a > ground thermal or gust) does a "ground loop" and > ends up with a 20. Another > pilot misses his time by a full minute (obviously a > terrible air reader, short on > soaring capability) but wins the contest!!! Oh the > unjustice.... > > Lets switch on the lights and take a close look at > the full size analogy > argument. > The full size pilot comes in for a landing, he's > right up the center of the > runway... but at the last second, hangs a wing tip, > ground loops ....trashes > his airplane and a few others, not to mention > killing a couple of the guys > bragging up their landings who were standing next to > those wrecked planes. > > The point: Precision landings get more points > because it shows that the pilot > is in complete control of his model...attitude, > speed, altitude, all in the > enviroment happening at the time of his approach. > (Don't bother jumping in with > "well no full size pilot would DORK!!! No > argument..but we have that option > because we aren't in the sailplane, and have to > suffer the costs to our models > by attempting the dork... in the case where a pilot > decides he 'knows' how to > MAKE a dork landing and walk away...its still > skill...he knows his sailplane. > In the case of the pilot who attempts the dork but > doesn't know his model, > soil conditions in the zone... he pays. > > ...but what about skegs??? No full size uses big > nose hooks to stop their > planes... > Imagine banning belly wheel brakes, as an unfair > advantage to landings... > TD is a combination of understanding sailplane setup > to realize its full > potential ; > reading air, and learning the best way to get your > sailplane to take > advantage of different shapes and strengths of > lift..and sink; > learning how to use all the energy stored in the > winch battery, transmitted > thru the line so that every atom can be converted > into altitude. > And finally... attempting to learn total control of > your model...in wind, > turbulence.. and ground effect, so that no matter > what task is assigned the day > you show up at a contest....you and your partner > (that's your sailplane by the > way) can say "bring it on..dude :). > > Trick landings should be hoped for, 100 point tapes > as an opportunity to move > up the score board, to bury the float around guys or > those guys who just have > the knack for turning the right way off > release....but once near the ground, > don't have a chance in heck of getting near that 100 > spot. > > and if you're one of those soaring genius', make > your mind up that, if > landings the game, you'll show them how to > play...start practicing and honing your > near-the-ground sailplane handling skills. > > Pretty good post hey :-) > > Gordy > Inspired by a sweet day of soaring with Chuck, Brian > and Herb, the thermal > wizards of Tullahoma, tn > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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