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Peter Benjamin wrote: > At 09:38 AM 9/29/2007, you wrote: >> Ah yes I saw this article. It was fairly interesting. >> >> As for it not working when out sourced to the private sector, that's a >> fairly blanket statement. > > When the administrative overhead of private firms needs to be > paid for as well (think executive salaries, rented office space, > health plans, etc), then that appears to have a cost increase of > 100% or more. Well. I am quite cheap. And in good health. And not an executive. :) What I was saying, is that I think a lot of time and money could be saved by going with a vendor who is an expert in this sort of thing, to do a feasibility study and design a solution that the city could then roll out. > > The key i think is to avoid "free" and think "highly discounted" > where it would be "free" to those who qualify, while the other > subscribers would have to subsidize the discount levels. This > could easily be done with high bandwidth users watching on demand > full frame/full motion movies at 10 meg/sec, would pay for something > that DSL/cable broadband can not deliver. Very true. One way I could see this working, is using a Library card as an identifier. From what I have heard, recent federal law requires some sort of "barrier" in place to identify the access point as open for public use, and a form of acceptance from the user. Something as simple as an e-mail address (which doesn't even have to be verified) could be sufficient. From what I understand, this was in response to some of the court cases surrounding access of free WiFI without the owners permission. For those who run free access points and leave them wide open for others to use. I don't have time to find the relevant information or links on this at the moment, but if someone dug that up it would be quite useful :) *shrugs* > > I just do not see any effort in "itemizing" the possible > revenue streams, which are well over a dozen, including > both low and high cost items (movies are high, ISO images > are low), where QoS and accounting play the most important > infrastructure part of the enterprise. Certainly. Things like Voice/Video/TV over IP immediately spring to mind. Pay per view etc. > > >> I think that system design/architecture, componet analysis can and should be >> done by the private sector. The roll out should absolutely be done by the >> local govt. Especially in Los Angeles with the various unions and so forth. > > What is a "roll out?" Physical deployment of access points and back end infrastructure. How does local gov do it? Well. They would schedule workers to take their little cherry pickers out, and hook up the access points to the light poles. :) > If they pay for the initial set up, who pays and > runs the operation year after year? The city or > a private firm? With tax dollars, or some ratio > of tax dollars with revenue? Probably some combination of the above (with several small private firms each getting a share of the contracts and revenue). > > I think that is why LA choose to use a feasibility firm approach. > To get many ideas/approaches. Here in LA I firmly believe that > the private individual, small firms, can do this job, and make > a 25% profit doing so, while larger firms will fall flat at > no profit, or negative cash flow (admin overhead costs). I fully agree. I am already in contact with numerous city officials and employees on this. If you are interested in my progress, please see my blog at http://jackshck.livejournal.com and my WiFI project page at http://www.knownelement.com/red-badger/ - -- Charles N Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] (818) 280 7059 http://www.thewybles.com/~charles President and CEO of Known Element Enterprises and affiliated companies. http://www.knownelement.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHASQpkQPZV56XDBMRAgu9AJ9hl8NRNbFEPU3ASFQoWpKtksLvIACdHjz2 AHgiaHoLSBB/saqQJcUqXCI= =BTgC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SOCALWUG" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/SOCALWUG SOCALWUG website: http://www.socalwug.org -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
