Ok  thanks Chris, this company really seems to be taking advantage of
the wireless boom! I'll maybe approch them ( or more likely try it out
first, 3 miles is cherry spitting compared to 72 miles), although apart
from your quote there seems to be no other indication of water "effect"
in their web.
ANdy

On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 20:17, Chris wrote:
> reminds me of that 72-mile WLAN link from san diego to the san clemente
> islands.
> http://www.computerworld.com/mobiletopics/mobile/story/0,10801,76118,00.html
> http://computerworld.com/mobiletopics/mobile/story/0,10801,75830,00.html
> quote:
> 'Ma agreed. He said 72 miles "is a truly amazing feat," especially over
> water, where reflections can inhibit the signal.'
> 
> You might be able to ask them about water issues first hand.
> http://hpwren.ucsd.edu/
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jeff Kutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 3:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [SOCALWUG] WiFI over water
> 
> 
> > When I first got interested in the subject of WiFi, I read about a link, I
> > believe it was in Hawaii, where they went some 20+km over water. They had
> a
> > picture from one of the sites and it looked like they were quite high over
> > the water. It looked like they were going from a hill/mountain to another
> > hill/mountain. They didn't report any water-specific problems. They did
> use
> > a hi-gain antenna but the idea was the long range of the link so this is
> to
> > be expected.
> >
> > I would say, "Go for it, and report back....."
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Andy Middleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >To: SOCALWUG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: [SOCALWUG] WiFI over water
> > >Date: 11 Sep 2003 09:23:15 +0100
> > >
> > >Jack,
> > >
> > >Another small challenge! I'm planning to make a 3 or 4 km link over the
> > >sea across a small bay here in Tenerife. One side of the link is fairly
> > >high (40-50m above sea-level), but the other is at half the height
> > >(20m). In theory I am not infringing the Fresnel zone (at 3 miles is
> > >almost 8m), but I am slightly concerned over possible reflections from
> > >the sea. I know that normally water absorbes microwaves, so I don't
> > >think it will be a problem, but I wondered if, on those days of
> > >dead-calm, there could be any reflection; the signal is almost parralel
> > >to the water, I am using horizontal polarisation: what is the worst that
> > >could happen to the link?
> > >Now that we're talking about it, how low can I go with my link? What
> > >would happen with vertical polarisation? Are there any "water-effects"
> > >that I have to be especially aware of? That I can even take advantage
> > >of? Could one "reflect" ALL of the signal? WOuld that be usefull?
> > >
> > >Sorry if its abit long!
> > >
> > >Andy Middleton
> > >
> >
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