On Thursday 09 Jun 2005 12:52, Daniel Carrera wrote:
> Peter Kupfer OOo wrote:
> > But Matrix is totally about religion,
>
> Morpheus has faith, and perhaps Trinity, but that's about it. And even
> that faith is not a religion. Prophecies don't make a religion.

You don't here about a lot of non-religious prophecies tho. 

> > Essentially Neo is the savior of the people, with the
> > Arhitect as God and the Oracle is Mary (in a sense, she was a co-God),
>
> Ah, but at best, those are artistic analogies with Christianity
> (Messiah, comming back from the dead, etc).

The movie does seem to have a lot of religious tone to it.

> > Isn't prayer a way that people try to control religion? (Or in a more
> > cyncical sense people donated gobs of money.)
>
> Believe it or not, prayer is not a way to control God and get him to do
> what you want. God is under no obligation to listen to you. Prayer
> essentially a conversation, and many also see it as *submission* to God.
> So actually prayer would be the opposite of controlling.

People pray to god (saints, invisible godlike being) with the intent that god 
(spirit) will influence the real world in some way (cure sick person) if they 
have faith. There are good and evil spirits. 

Jedi commune with the force (invisible godlike beings) with the intent that 
the force (godlike beings) will influence the real world in some way (move 
object) if they have faith. There is the dark and light side.

tim

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