Just a quick question to the Morton on this.... Do you use a Wacom tablet by any chance?
Regards, Simon On 6 May 2013 11:25, Raffaele Fragapane <[email protected]> wrote: > Oh, and agreeing that support for keyboard shorcuts and searching is the > one important thing that should have been retained, and that they did > retain :) > > > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Raffaele Fragapane < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Nope, I'm arguing that the argument the start menu has always been >> unusable on account of stuff ending up all over the place is flawed, as the >> start menu has always been both organizable, and efficiently searchable :) >> >> >> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Luc-Eric Rousseau >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> that type-to-search and keyboard support is the same in windows 8 on the >>> metro screen, are you arguing it's gone? >>> Le 2013-05-05 20:06, "Raffaele Fragapane" <[email protected]> >>> a écrit : >>> >>> I might be missing something here, but my start menu in both Linux and >>>> Windows is serviced by two amazing modern pieces of tech: >>>> 1) I can create and organize folders and links inside them >>>> 2) When they come up I can right away start typing the name of >>>> something and it will instantly offer, and consequently update, filtered >>>> results as I type. >>>> >>>> As someone with a respectable typing speed and keyboard dexterity, I >>>> normally get anywhere I want within two seconds top by ctrl+esc, typing >>>> what I know will fetch me the app I want, and then hitting enter. >>>> >>>> The autoarranging (one should say autoscrambling), spastically coloured >>>> tetris blocks with gimongous unrelated icons or retina searing white text >>>> on bright green background don't quite do it for me. >>>> >>>> That said, Sam, I don't know where you read about all these >>>> instability and driver problems, but I would reconsider. >>>> Any well clued people I know using it finds it responsive, stable, and >>>> generally a well polished product, with only the UI being non-sensical >>>> without a touch device. >>>> >>>> Given touch sensitive monitors will no doubt become the standard even >>>> for desk-bound products at some point, I can't say it's a bad move on MS' >>>> end, just they should have found a better large surface alternative when >>>> they run that UI on monitors 22" and up, but you can always switch it to a >>>> more familiar mode if you really can't deal with it. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Luc-Eric Rousseau >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> the start menu has always been unusable, imho - you never know under >>>>> which folder things will be hidding (company name, product name, suite >>>>> name, random other name), there is too much crap in there and it got even >>>>> less usable with XP auto hiding. this is just legacy stuff, crap we >>>>> learn >>>>> to be expert at using. what's important is that Microsoft still >>>>> supports >>>>> keyboard shortcuts and search >>>>> Le 2013-05-05 14:04, "Sam" <[email protected]> a écrit : >>>>> >>>>> People have good reason to hate windows 8. Because the metro cell >>>>>> phone menu is useless on a desktop PC. Windows 8 is even more than Vista, >>>>>> in fact more people are still using Vista than are using windows 8. I >>>>>> spent >>>>>> about a week with windows 8 and it’s really the most terrible UI I’ve >>>>>> ever >>>>>> used. I can’t see how anyone would think a grid of multi-sized (horridly >>>>>> colored) cubes that takes up your whole screen is easier to search than >>>>>> an >>>>>> alphabetized text list (with related items grouped in folders) that only >>>>>> takes up a small portion of your screen. **** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> Microsoft should have known better than to do this because it’s >>>>>> obvious that people do not like the metro interface. All you have to do >>>>>> is >>>>>> look at their cell phone market share. They tried to make their cell >>>>>> phone >>>>>> interface more popular by sticking it on their new OS, but instead, they >>>>>> made their new OS as popular as their cell phones… **** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> Not even going to get into the other problems, like compatibility, >>>>>> the apps interface and the driver problems I’ve read about. This is one >>>>>> place where they really should have copied apple. On a mac you can >>>>>> completely ignore all the cell phone crap they added.**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >>>>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Rob Wuijster >>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 04, 2013 1:27 AM >>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Aw: RE: Graphics update problem in animation editors** >>>>>> ** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> Me neither, but apparently new stuff in Windows always leads to very >>>>>> extreme opinions. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just look at Win8 and the 'removal' of the start menu. Some people >>>>>> will almost go into cardiac arrest just talking about it. ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> **** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> Rob**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> \/-------------\/----------------\/**** >>>>>> >>>>>> On 4-5-2013 0:13, Sam wrote:**** >>>>>> >>>>>> I never understood all the hate for Aero. **** >>>>>> >>>>>> **** >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* [email protected] [ >>>>>> mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] >>>>>> *On Behalf Of *Rob Wuijster >>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, May 03, 2013 6:29 AM >>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Aw: RE: Graphics update problem in animation editors** >>>>>> ** >>>>>> >>>>>> **** >>>>>> >>>>>> Most apps rely on the default behavior of Windows itself. >>>>>> So by turning off Aero, you may introduce unwanted behavior in an >>>>>> app..... ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> **** >>>>>> >>>>>> **** >>>>>> >>>>>> **** >>>>>> >>>>>> Rob**** >>>>>> >>>>>> \/-------------\/----------------\/**** >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3-5-2013 15:22, Leo Quensel wrote:**** >>>>>> >>>>>> I have the same problem all the time. I hate Aero and don't want it. >>>>>> Why should we have to switch it on to prevent bugs from happening?*** >>>>>> * >>>>>> >>>>>> **** >>>>>> >>>>>> Leo**** >>>>>> >>>>>> **** >>>>>> >>>>>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 03. Mai 2013 um 15:03 Uhr >>>>>> *Von:* "Sean Donnelly" >>>>>> <[email protected]><[email protected]> >>>>>> *An:* "[email protected]"<[email protected]> >>>>>> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> >>>>>> *Betreff:* RE: Graphics update problem in animation editors**** >>>>>> >>>>>> Do you have Window Aero turned on? It should be. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sean >>>>>> >>>>>> From: [email protected] [ >>>>>> mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] >>>>>> On Behalf Of Dan Yargici >>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 8:43 AM >>>>>> To: Morten Bartholdy; [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: Graphics update problem in animation editors >>>>>> >>>>>> I get it all the time in the Render Tree and ICE Tree, it can be >>>>>> really infuriating. >>>>>> >>>>>> DAN >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Morten Bartholdy <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I am experiencing an annoying problem with lacking update in >>>>>> animation editors and other curve editors. I can select (tag) a key and >>>>>> it >>>>>> will not show the tagged point - I have to move or resize the window to >>>>>> force an update. Sometimes only part of the window updates until I move >>>>>> or >>>>>> resize, making it difficult to work with any type of curve editor. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I am on Soft 2013 SP1 Win7 x64, Geforce GTX 570 driver version 311.06. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I am guessing this is not a bug, merely a driver issue, so I am >>>>>> curious to know if others have experienced something similar and if not, >>>>>> which version drivers you use? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> Morten >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> **** >>>>>> >>>>>> No virus found in this message. >>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>>> Version: 2013.0.3272 / Virus Database: 3162/6292 - Release Date: >>>>>> 05/02/13**** >>>>>> >>>>>> **** >>>>>> >>>>>> No virus found in this message. >>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>>> Version: 2013.0.3272 / Virus Database: 3162/6295 - Release Date: >>>>>> 05/03/13**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Our users will know fear and cower before our software! 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