Ever the extremist :) Touch isn't a replacement to other devices, it extends it.
If you never tried painting with a touch sensitive interface, you won't understand. Turning the canvas around, orbiting, zooming, resizing the mouse and so on are amazingly intuitive and smooth. Scrolling, moving icons etc, all activities that suffer for cosiderable lag or unnatural gestures right now, can be made fluid and unambiguous. But anyway, it doesn't seem like this discussion would go anywhere. On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > I did a lot of reading on the web when windows 8 first came out and I saw > a lot of people complaining about programs and games not running correctly. > I just saw an article recently where setting a game (don’t remember which > one) on its highest setting would cause everything to disappear under > windows 8. IE 10 has all kinds of compatibility problems (I’m one of those > freaks who like IE). I tried renewing mudbox with it and the Autodesk web > site kept telling me that there would be a late charge because my > subscription had expired. After contacting tech support and going back and > forth with them for a bit I finally figured out it was IE10 causing the > problem and that Firefox and IE9 didn’t have the problem. I also ran across > tons of web sites that will no longer load or display correctly with IE10. > **** > > ** ** > > As for touch on a desktop…. Why? Last thing I would ever want is my > monitor to look as bad as my cell phone does with fingerprints all over it > and leaning over your desk to touch your screen for 8 to 10 hours a day > will just ruin your shoulders and back. Honestly, there it very little that > I have seen that a touch screen can do better than a standard keyboard and > mouse/tablet. The whole reason for the tablet/cell phone interface is > because you can’t use a keyboard/mouse on them. This whole idea of the > desktop computer being dead is just silly. **** > > ** ** > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Raffaele Fragapane > *Sent:* Sunday, May 05, 2013 5:00 PM > > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Aw: RE: Graphics update problem in animation editors**** > > ** ** > > That said, Sam, I don't know where you read about all these instability > and driver problems, but I would reconsider.**** > > Any well clued people I know using it finds it responsive, stable, and > generally a well polished product, with only the UI being non-sensical > without a touch device. > > Given touch sensitive monitors will no doubt become the standard even for > desk-bound products at some point, I can't say it's a bad move on MS' end, > just they should have found a better large surface alternative when they > run that UI on monitors 22" and up, but you can always switch it to a more > familiar mode if you really can't deal with it.**** > > ** ** > > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Luc-Eric Rousseau <[email protected]> > wrote:**** > > the start menu has always been unusable, imho - you never know under which > folder things will be hidding (company name, product name, suite name, > random other name), there is too much crap in there and it got even less > usable with XP auto hiding. this is just legacy stuff, crap we learn to > be expert at using. what's important is that Microsoft still supports > keyboard shortcuts and search**** > > Le 2013-05-05 14:04, "Sam" <[email protected]> a écrit :**** > > ** ** > > People have good reason to hate windows 8. Because the metro cell phone > menu is useless on a desktop PC. Windows 8 is even more than Vista, in fact > more people are still using Vista than are using windows 8. I spent about a > week with windows 8 and it’s really the most terrible UI I’ve ever used. I > can’t see how anyone would think a grid of multi-sized (horridly colored) > cubes that takes up your whole screen is easier to search than an > alphabetized text list (with related items grouped in folders) that only > takes up a small portion of your screen. **** > > **** > > Microsoft should have known better than to do this because it’s obvious > that people do not like the metro interface. All you have to do is look at > their cell phone market share. They tried to make their cell phone > interface more popular by sticking it on their new OS, but instead, they > made their new OS as popular as their cell phones… **** > > **** > > Not even going to get into the other problems, like compatibility, the > apps interface and the driver problems I’ve read about. This is one place > where they really should have copied apple. On a mac you can completely > ignore all the cell phone crap they added.**** > > **** > > **** > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Rob Wuijster > *Sent:* Saturday, May 04, 2013 1:27 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Aw: RE: Graphics update problem in animation editors**** > > **** > > Me neither, but apparently new stuff in Windows always leads to very > extreme opinions. > > Just look at Win8 and the 'removal' of the start menu. Some people will > almost go into cardiac arrest just talking about it. ;-)**** > > **** > > **** > > Rob**** > > **** > > \/-------------\/----------------\/**** > > On 4-5-2013 0:13, Sam wrote:**** > > I never understood all the hate for Aero. **** > > **** > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] > *On Behalf Of *Rob Wuijster > *Sent:* Friday, May 03, 2013 6:29 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Aw: RE: Graphics update problem in animation editors**** > > **** > > Most apps rely on the default behavior of Windows itself. > So by turning off Aero, you may introduce unwanted behavior in an app..... > ;-) > > **** > > **** > > **** > > Rob**** > > \/-------------\/----------------\/**** > > On 3-5-2013 15:22, Leo Quensel wrote:**** > > I have the same problem all the time. I hate Aero and don't want it. Why > should we have to switch it on to prevent bugs from happening?**** > > **** > > Leo**** > > **** > > *Gesendet:* Freitag, 03. Mai 2013 um 15:03 Uhr > *Von:* "Sean Donnelly" > <[email protected]><[email protected]> > *An:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > *Betreff:* RE: Graphics update problem in animation editors**** > > Do you have Window Aero turned on? It should be. > > Sean > > From: [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] > On Behalf Of Dan Yargici > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 8:43 AM > To: Morten Bartholdy; [email protected] > Subject: Re: Graphics update problem in animation editors > > I get it all the time in the Render Tree and ICE Tree, it can be really > infuriating. > > DAN > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Morten Bartholdy <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]>> wrote: > > I am experiencing an annoying problem with lacking update in animation > editors and other curve editors. I can select (tag) a key and it will not > show the tagged point - I have to move or resize the window to force an > update. Sometimes only part of the window updates until I move or resize, > making it difficult to work with any type of curve editor. > > > > I am on Soft 2013 SP1 Win7 x64, Geforce GTX 570 driver version 311.06. > > > > I am guessing this is not a bug, merely a driver issue, so I am curious to > know if others have experienced something similar and if not, which version > drivers you use? > > > > Thanks > > Morten > > > > > > > **** > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.3272 / Virus Database: 3162/6292 - Release Date: 05/02/13* > *** > > **** > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.3272 / Virus Database: 3162/6295 - Release Date: 05/03/13* > *** > > **** > > > > > -- > Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it > and let them flee like the dogs they are!**** > -- Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it and let them flee like the dogs they are!

