Hey Jon, yes you are right. At first DT had almost the same amount of tutorials for Softimage and Maya. But a couple of years after AD bought Softimage, DT started to double the tutorials on Maya...
Maybe instead of making doom threads, we can start pulling some tutorials ourselves. I believe that there are the channels already to assemble such a task. rray.de has already the best compilation of tools, compounds, and plugins commercial and non commercial. Maybe we can start joining forces into this and start putting out a solid tutorial base. 2014/1/2 Jon Hunt <[email protected]> > A serious but silly question perhaps, how do you long term soft users cope > when jumping into maya with the mouse button combinations being wrong! I > know I have tweaked my wacom settings to ease the pain but......and then > just as you get used to it you go back to soft and its all wrong again! > > On a different note, whilst tutorials on the net have significantly > improved and I have seen a lot of great work being done (by many people on > here infact). Have any of you talented folk considered bringing the fight > and attract new users in the form of subscription tutorials. > Digital Tutors is good but is lacking when you see what is available on > the Maya training, Soft just aint as appealing if you want to self learn or > as a student subscribe to progress outside the classroom. One would choose > Maya over soft if they were browsing the training kits... > Lynda.com no presence of Softimage at all where as - Maya, Cinema, Max, > Mudbox, Zbrush and Modo all get regular new courses. Some of this training > kits provide pretty weak assets an examples. > With training I mean using more updated techniques and not just solely ICE > training. Good solid rounded FUN training including characters, texturing - > showing all these frkin amazing workflows that Soft has! > > I know Autodesk don't make much money out of education licensing but I > think there is value in attracting new users (not necessarily new to 3D). > Not forgetting completely new users. I think its easy to forget sometimes > how long we have been doing this for and how little new users know. > > Just some thoughts.... > > Jon > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 12:10 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Maybe we should just setup a crowdfunding project and buy SI back >> from AD ourselves ;-) >> >> but buy what exactly? and to do what with it? >> >> we want this software to live on and thrive – just getting it out of the >> hands of ADSK is not going to make that happen. >> In the hands of ADSK it’s on life support – enough not to die but not >> enough to regain it’s vitality. >> Money (lots of it) will still need to be pumped into it’s development. >> >> So how much years of life does it have left really? >> If we take SI3D as a reference – wiki says it was first released in 1988, >> and last release in 2002 – so that’s 14 years. >> XSI was released in 2000 – and we are now beginning of 2014. (happy 2014 >> y’all) >> Can we really hope for anyone to heavily invest in it’s future at this >> point in its lifecycle? >> >> Imagine 1000 entities -companies, individuals- could be found to each >> couch up 10.000$ – that’s 10M$. >> This sounds like wishful thinking to me, yet Softimage was sold to AD for >> 35M$ >> I don’t think crowd-funding will make enough money to buy “it” – less so >> provide a stream of funds for an extended period. >> For that it needs to get back in shape and be properly commercialized. >> A new owner would have to be willing and able to really push the software >> – which would be against ADSKs interests. >> >> And where Avid and Adsk didn’t succeed commercially, why would that >> change with a new owner? >> Granted, I can hardly imagine anyone doing a worse job than they have – >> perhaps Adobe or Apple could do worse yet? >> >> Perhaps the way out would be a joint venture – where ADSK remains owner >> for 49 or 51% and another, interested party tries to give it a kickstart? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Toonafish <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Friday, January 03, 2014 12:03 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: rumor, Soft dead within the next year >> >> Maybe we should just setup a crowdfunding project and buy SI back from >> AD ourselves ;-) >> >> -Ronald >> >> >> On 1/2/2014 23:49, Manuel Huertas Marchena wrote: >> >> "I'm just thinking what if Avid or MS buy back SI if AD really abandon >> SI." >> >> mm...I don't think autodesk wants to sell a product just for someone else >> to revamp it and sell it as a concurrent to 3ds and maya... >> if they were ever to abandon soft, they might just keep it to >> themselves... >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 11:42:58 +1300 >> Subject: Re: rumor, Soft dead within the next year >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected]; [email protected] >> >> I'm just thinking what if Avid or MS buy back SI if AD really abandon >> SI. >> I like SI when Avid and MS had it... Old good memory. >> >> Daniel >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Daniel Kim >> Animation Director & Professional 3D Generalist >> http://www.danielkim3d.com >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 11:34 AM, [email protected] <[email protected] >> > wrote: >> >> So when softimage is "dead"(I hate this thread) what do you think?All >> softimage-user/Companys will switch then to another Software immediately? >> >> I think the will stay for 2-4years and then switch to another >> Applikation. >> And AD will get no money >> Hahh haha, i think AD has no change to bury SI,maybe they will Sell it, >> and this means :rebirth !!! >> happy New year! >> And please cloth this thread . >> Sorry fort my englisch >> Walt >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Ronald van Vemden >> ----------------------------------------------- >> 3D Graphics & Animation >> Cyberfish Laboratories | www.cyberfish.nl >> Toonafish | www.toonafish.nl >> tel. +31(0)20 5289291 >> fax +31(0)20 5289292 >> email: [email protected] >> >> >
