Hi Emilio, "Maybe instead of making doom threads, we can start pulling some tutorials ourselves" - I couldn't agree more, I hoped that my own mail was more constructive than adding to the gloom!!
As well as spreading the word to my students on the resources you mentioned (as well as the forums, TD survival, Softimage.tv etc) I do record some tutorials for Softimage for my students which are hosted on our local site. These however are not complete training kits that I would say could be sold or marketed to say Lynda.com yet. Some I have recorded arent wildly different to some of what DT provide. We don't offer a subscription to DT but do have the quite dated DT DVD sets. We do offer students a subscription to Lynda.com which I know is common among other Universities. It would be great to see a few Softimage courses on Lynda.com, perhaps another revenue stream for any freelancers between contracts or have any certified Softimage trainers considered this option? J On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Emilio Hernandez <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey Jon, yes you are right. At first DT had almost the same amount of > tutorials for Softimage and Maya. But a couple of years after AD bought > Softimage, DT started to double the tutorials on Maya... > > Maybe instead of making doom threads, we can start pulling some tutorials > ourselves. I believe that there are the channels already to assemble such > a task. > > rray.de has already the best compilation of tools, compounds, and plugins > commercial and non commercial. Maybe we can start joining forces into this > and start putting out a solid tutorial base. > > > > > > > 2014/1/2 Jon Hunt <[email protected]> > >> A serious but silly question perhaps, how do you long term soft users >> cope when jumping into maya with the mouse button combinations being wrong! >> I know I have tweaked my wacom settings to ease the pain but......and then >> just as you get used to it you go back to soft and its all wrong again! >> >> On a different note, whilst tutorials on the net have significantly >> improved and I have seen a lot of great work being done (by many people on >> here infact). Have any of you talented folk considered bringing the fight >> and attract new users in the form of subscription tutorials. >> Digital Tutors is good but is lacking when you see what is available on >> the Maya training, Soft just aint as appealing if you want to self learn or >> as a student subscribe to progress outside the classroom. One would choose >> Maya over soft if they were browsing the training kits... >> Lynda.com no presence of Softimage at all where as - Maya, Cinema, Max, >> Mudbox, Zbrush and Modo all get regular new courses. Some of this training >> kits provide pretty weak assets an examples. >> With training I mean using more updated techniques and not just solely >> ICE training. Good solid rounded FUN training including characters, >> texturing - showing all these frkin amazing workflows that Soft has! >> >> I know Autodesk don't make much money out of education licensing but I >> think there is value in attracting new users (not necessarily new to 3D). >> Not forgetting completely new users. I think its easy to forget sometimes >> how long we have been doing this for and how little new users know. >> >> Just some thoughts.... >> >> Jon >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 12:10 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> > Maybe we should just setup a crowdfunding project and buy SI back >>> from AD ourselves ;-) >>> >>> but buy what exactly? and to do what with it? >>> >>> we want this software to live on and thrive – just getting it out of the >>> hands of ADSK is not going to make that happen. >>> In the hands of ADSK it’s on life support – enough not to die but not >>> enough to regain it’s vitality. >>> Money (lots of it) will still need to be pumped into it’s development. >>> >>> So how much years of life does it have left really? >>> If we take SI3D as a reference – wiki says it was first released in >>> 1988, and last release in 2002 – so that’s 14 years. >>> XSI was released in 2000 – and we are now beginning of 2014. (happy 2014 >>> y’all) >>> Can we really hope for anyone to heavily invest in it’s future at this >>> point in its lifecycle? >>> >>> Imagine 1000 entities -companies, individuals- could be found to each >>> couch up 10.000$ – that’s 10M$. >>> This sounds like wishful thinking to me, yet Softimage was sold to AD >>> for 35M$ >>> I don’t think crowd-funding will make enough money to buy “it” – less so >>> provide a stream of funds for an extended period. >>> For that it needs to get back in shape and be properly commercialized. >>> A new owner would have to be willing and able to really push the >>> software – which would be against ADSKs interests. >>> >>> And where Avid and Adsk didn’t succeed commercially, why would that >>> change with a new owner? >>> Granted, I can hardly imagine anyone doing a worse job than they have – >>> perhaps Adobe or Apple could do worse yet? >>> >>> Perhaps the way out would be a joint venture – where ADSK remains owner >>> for 49 or 51% and another, interested party tries to give it a kickstart? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Toonafish <[email protected]> >>> *Sent:* Friday, January 03, 2014 12:03 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: rumor, Soft dead within the next year >>> >>> Maybe we should just setup a crowdfunding project and buy SI back from >>> AD ourselves ;-) >>> >>> -Ronald >>> >>> >>> On 1/2/2014 23:49, Manuel Huertas Marchena wrote: >>> >>> "I'm just thinking what if Avid or MS buy back SI if AD really abandon >>> SI." >>> >>> mm...I don't think autodesk wants to sell a product just for someone >>> else to revamp it and sell it as a concurrent to 3ds and maya... >>> if they were ever to abandon soft, they might just keep it to >>> themselves... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 11:42:58 +1300 >>> Subject: Re: rumor, Soft dead within the next year >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected]; [email protected] >>> >>> I'm just thinking what if Avid or MS buy back SI if AD really abandon >>> SI. >>> I like SI when Avid and MS had it... Old good memory. >>> >>> Daniel >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Daniel Kim >>> Animation Director & Professional 3D Generalist >>> http://www.danielkim3d.com >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 11:34 AM, [email protected] < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> So when softimage is "dead"(I hate this thread) what do you think?All >>> softimage-user/Companys will switch then to another Software immediately? >>> >>> I think the will stay for 2-4years and then switch to another >>> Applikation. >>> And AD will get no money >>> Hahh haha, i think AD has no change to bury SI,maybe they will Sell it, >>> and this means :rebirth !!! >>> happy New year! >>> And please cloth this thread . >>> Sorry fort my englisch >>> Walt >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ronald van Vemden >>> ----------------------------------------------- >>> 3D Graphics & Animation >>> Cyberfish Laboratories | www.cyberfish.nl >>> Toonafish | www.toonafish.nl >>> tel. +31(0)20 5289291 >>> fax +31(0)20 5289292 >>> email: [email protected] >>> >>> >> >
