"I use almost the same customized key layout in both so I can switch between them without almost any brain delay.The down side is that nobody will be able to use your PC."
...haha I can recall this as well for me, as I said on a previous post I came originally from 3ds max, so when I learned xsi I tried remapping the whole app to be consistent with my 3ds shortcuts... but somewhere in the middle I also started liking some of the xsi's native ones (is just that in 3ds there were no "real" equivalents that I knew... like the +/- for subdivision gotta really like that btw.. the edge slide tool, proportional move... etc etc, so now adays my keyboard setup is very mixed up but at least I find my way very well regardless... but yeah when a coworker comes to my desk there's always the.. ahh yeah forgot you have the weird hotkey setup after they click on something and does whatever else... ha even worst as I learned maya as third package and in xsi I am used to do almost 95% of stuff with hotkeys.. I just couldn't get used to maya's hotbox... so nowadays if I have to use maya I do it the xsi way with hotkeys all the way.. so far so good, but it took hell more time to remap hotkeys in maya... ..yeah with maya you dont get the "keyboard" image like in soft that makes it very fast to find hotkeys... in maya is all around nested in different categories... IMDB | Portfolio | Vimeo | Linkedin Subject: Re: rumor, Soft dead within the next year From: [email protected] Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 13:58:15 +0900 To: [email protected] I use almost the same customized key layout in both so I can switch between them without almost any brain delay.The down side is that nobody will be able to use your PC. AFAIK you can't remap alt or rclick mclick in Maya so if you want to use the same keyboard layout you should use Maya in SI. If you do that you'll have to customize it a little because SI doesn't have the Maya space bar menu or other menu shortcuts so you'll have to relay on the stupid F10, F11 etc to change your selection modes which is a really pita or should I say pain in your wrist and fingers.Also if you switch to Maya mode, what was an Alt combination will most probably be now a D key or ctrl+alt combination.You may be using some keys in SI that aren't in the Maya layout, so it may take a while to find those commands and remap them. I also change Maya shortcuts so I can open Outliner with 8 and things like that. A little of both worlds that make me work faster. So I'll suggest to customize your keys to whatever suits you. MartinSent from my iPhone On 2014/01/03, at 9:46, Jon Hunt <[email protected]> wrote: A serious but silly question perhaps, how do you long term soft users cope when jumping into maya with the mouse button combinations being wrong! I know I have tweaked my wacom settings to ease the pain but......and then just as you get used to it you go back to soft and its all wrong again! On a different note, whilst tutorials on the net have significantly improved and I have seen a lot of great work being done (by many people on here infact). Have any of you talented folk considered bringing the fight and attract new users in the form of subscription tutorials. Digital Tutors is good but is lacking when you see what is available on the Maya training, Soft just aint as appealing if you want to self learn or as a student subscribe to progress outside the classroom. One would choose Maya over soft if they were browsing the training kits... Lynda.com no presence of Softimage at all where as - Maya, Cinema, Max, Mudbox, Zbrush and Modo all get regular new courses. Some of this training kits provide pretty weak assets an examples. With training I mean using more updated techniques and not just solely ICE training. Good solid rounded FUN training including characters, texturing - showing all these frkin amazing workflows that Soft has! I know Autodesk don't make much money out of education licensing but I think there is value in attracting new users (not necessarily new to 3D). Not forgetting completely new users. I think its easy to forget sometimes how long we have been doing this for and how little new users know. Just some thoughts.... Jon On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 12:10 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Maybe we should just setup a crowdfunding project and buy SI back from AD ourselves ;-) but buy what exactly? and to do what with it? we want this software to live on and thrive – just getting it out of the hands of ADSK is not going to make that happen. In the hands of ADSK it’s on life support – enough not to die but not enough to regain it’s vitality. Money (lots of it) will still need to be pumped into it’s development. So how much years of life does it have left really? If we take SI3D as a reference – wiki says it was first released in 1988, and last release in 2002 – so that’s 14 years. XSI was released in 2000 – and we are now beginning of 2014. (happy 2014 y’all) Can we really hope for anyone to heavily invest in it’s future at this point in its lifecycle? Imagine 1000 entities -companies, individuals- could be found to each couch up 10.000$ – that’s 10M$. This sounds like wishful thinking to me, yet Softimage was sold to AD for 35M$ I don’t think crowd-funding will make enough money to buy “it” – less so provide a stream of funds for an extended period. For that it needs to get back in shape and be properly commercialized. A new owner would have to be willing and able to really push the software – which would be against ADSKs interests. And where Avid and Adsk didn’t succeed commercially, why would that change with a new owner? Granted, I can hardly imagine anyone doing a worse job than they have – perhaps Adobe or Apple could do worse yet? Perhaps the way out would be a joint venture – where ADSK remains owner for 49 or 51% and another, interested party tries to give it a kickstart? From: Toonafish Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 12:03 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: rumor, Soft dead within the next year Maybe we should just setup a crowdfunding project and buy SI back from AD ourselves ;-) -Ronald On 1/2/2014 23:49, Manuel Huertas Marchena wrote: "I'm just thinking what if Avid or MS buy back SI if AD really abandon SI." mm...I don't think autodesk wants to sell a product just for someone else to revamp it and sell it as a concurrent to 3ds and maya... if they were ever to abandon soft, they might just keep it to themselves... Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 11:42:58 +1300 Subject: Re: rumor, Soft dead within the next year From: [email protected] To: [email protected]; [email protected] I'm just thinking what if Avid or MS buy back SI if AD really abandon SI. I like SI when Avid and MS had it... Old good memory. Daniel ------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel Kim Animation Director & Professional 3D Generalist http://www.danielkim3d.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 11:34 AM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: So when softimage is "dead"(I hate this thread) what do you think?All softimage-user/Companys will switch then to another Software immediately? I think the will stay for 2-4years and then switch to another Applikation. And AD will get no money Hahh haha, i think AD has no change to bury SI,maybe they will Sell it, and this means :rebirth !!! happy New year! And please cloth this thread . Sorry fort my englisch Walt -- Ronald van Vemden ----------------------------------------------- 3D Graphics & Animation Cyberfish Laboratories | www.cyberfish.nl Toonafish | www.toonafish.nl tel. +31(0)20 5289291 fax +31(0)20 5289292 email: [email protected]
