Thanks everyone,
  I tried Vue for a few hours, it was impressive, but decided not to go
with it, due to stability issues and user friendliness.  Plus I rather not
go to my boss and ask him for 2k for the program.

I don't think the actual foliage scattering is that hard to replicate with
ICE.

For now i have gone with a combination of Dart Throw and Scatter tools to
give me most of the control that I need.  Actually its pretty nice so far

With some minor adjustments and some scripting to make the process easier I
think its actually a pretty decent system to get us some quick set dressing
of forests and bushes etc...




On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Eugen Sares <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Ozone... good for generating some HDR skies, but the connection plugin
> for Soft is crappy. Can crash on load or save, is modal... handle with
> care, if at all.
>
>
> ------ Originalnachricht ------
> Von: "Stefan Kubicek" <[email protected]>
> An: [email protected]
> Gesendet: 03.02.2014 12:55:56
> Betreff: Re: Set Dressing Tool Ideas
>
>
> If you want to save yourself some major headaches I recommend keeping your
> hands off of Vue and related products (e.g. Ozone, Carbon Scatter).
> I and others I know have given it a shot in the past repeatedly and every
> single time were turned off by poor stability.
> I've heard better things of Terragen, but I admit I have never used it.
>
>
>  Thanks Nick and Jordi,
>   I will check out scatter tools now.
>
> Jordi I agree completely with what you say, and at One Animation I usually
> only get about 1 to 2 weeks to develop anything. So I am very willing to
> try an out of box solution.
>
> I started playing with Vue Extreme today,  it seems pretty powerful, but
> wow its not enjoyable at all to use,  I will keep experimenting with it
> until i understand it better.
>
> I will also try world builder now thanks to your recommendation.
>
> -E
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 10:55 PM, Jordi Bares <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Very impressive tools.. :-) Sill amazed by what people produce with ICE
>>
>>  Jordi Bares
>> [email protected]
>>
>>  On 1 Feb 2014, at 11:58, Nick Angus <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>   Milan Vasek's Scatter Tools are my best friend when it comes to this
>> sort of stuff. https://vimeo.com/36612233
>> He has created some pretty astounding imagery with them also
>> http://www.milanvasek.com/?p=355
>>
>> More advanced stuff that uses libraries of assets would have been used by
>> the folks at Whiskytree, Steve Caron might be able to elaborate.
>> But if you combine Scatter tools with Arnold instancing you pretty much
>> have the best solution out of the box in my opinion.
>>
>> Cheers, Nick
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:softimage-
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Enrique Caballero
>> *Sent:* Saturday, 1 February 2014 3:50 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Set Dressing Tool Ideas
>>
>>  Hey everyone,
>>    I was hoping to pick your brains.
>>
>>
>> I am currently doing some research on how to simplify, and make cheaper
>> our set dressing process over at this small shop that I work at.
>>
>>  In the old days, when we did small simple shows, set dressing wasn't
>> very difficult for us as there were limited amounts of props and
>> environment pieces.  We would just import referenced models and place them
>> by hand/
>>
>>  But now that we do full forests and large amounts of rocks and plant
>> life, we need to upgrade our techniques. As our original techniques are no
>> longer sufficient.
>>
>>
>>
>>  I am looking at how ICE can help us with the initial set dressing.
>>  Maybe by painting weight maps we can spawn different types of mushrooms
>> and trees etc.
>>
>>
>>  I am currently experimenting with Dart Throw, and it looks very
>> promising. Thanks Julian!
>>
>>  Although I need to figure out how to get it to switch between different
>> geo types, IE. Trees, mushrooms, etc.  Currently I can only get it to spawn
>> one geo type at a time.
>>
>>  I was wondering if anyone had any ideas about how we could simplify
>> this stuff,  as I said before, currently I am looking at Dart throw and
>> ABScatter to see if they can help us out, but I am open minded.  Has anyone
>> tried Vue Studio or anything similar that they can recommend?
>>
>>  best,
>>  Enrique
>>
>>
>>
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